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@tim-2 still no decent job and with more and more covid here it is still really bad with jobs.. I could work full time for good money, but in factory day/night shifts... I would crash with adrenal burnout after 6 months in job like this..

@jiri

When you say adrenal burnout do you mean symptoms like brain fog, fatigue and anxiety? How long have you been doing low vA now? When you are healthier maybe you could do the basic anatomy and physiology papers at your local university, is that all you need to do in Czech to set yourself up as a naturopath?

@tim-2 I am 100% sure that copper toxicity is stimulating the body to the point of "adrenal burnout" which means mainly low cortisol, low blood pressure, fatigue.. It is related to ceruloplasmin synthesis in the liver. You need good adrenal function for that. During "copper dump" I had high blood pressure, high energy. Now when copper is low in the blood my blood pressure is low, energy is low.. Like I said mineral balance is the most important thing. Because minerals balance = hormone balance. It is simple as that I believe.. Me and naturopath? Heh maybe fitness trainer. Just be in the gym and watch nice girls.. 🙂

@jiri

Once estrogen levels are balanced is copper likely to come into line or is that just a small part of the equation?

In Australia there are people without qualifications putting top athletes on vegan diets and carnivore diets etc, crazy. I'm guessing that it is athletes that have problems that are getting worse while following the standard advice so they are open to trying out new ideas.

Yeah fitness trainer for the wealthy, many of them won't train without a PT and if you put them on a low vA diet etc and heal their problems they will thank you forever and one will probably set you up with their daughter too...

@tim-2  Well if the liver, bile production/flow is working. You should dump all the extra copper once estrogen is low. But I have issues with that main way for elimination of copper. So it is still there.. Estrogen is notorious for bile issues. So it is very bad combo. Estrogen retains copper which you can't eliminate due to bile issues.. 

I haven't taken any vit D for the last 17 months-- it's something I thought I NEEDED to get through winter.  However, instead, I made a point of getting outside with NO HAT and exposing a limb or two here and there--every single sunny day at noonish through all the dark months.    I'm light-skinned and white-haired, so not much of a filter.  I was fine and my mood did not suffer.

I'm at 42.76 N latitude.  (Similar to Boston).   To put that in perspective, we usually have a White Christmas (and the snow stays until mid-March), temps often dip below zero F, and sometimes as low as the negative teens.  In mid-winter it is dark at five.

I do eat some D foods such  as lard and fish.

Personally, I'd worry now about supplementing fat-solubles in general.  They are quite sticky aren't they?  I'm also finding supplementing B's are tricky too.  I hate supps.  😉

@lil-chick "However, instead, I made a point of getting outside with NO HAT and exposing a limb or two here and there--every single sunny day at noonish through all the dark months.    I'm light-skinned and white-haired, so not much of a filter. "

Heh sorry, but eating can of sardines will give you more vit D than what you did.. You can google some applications to your phone where it tells you how much vit D you can get from the sun at the moment where you are on the planet. I think that what you did helped your circadian rhythm( your biological clocks) and that helped your mood for sure...  

@jiri

What makes you think you aren't releasing bile properly?

You are probably right about basically zero vD during winter months but it's not quite that simple, it depends on other factors like altitude as well. Spend a day skiing without sunscreen and you find out the hard way. Plenty of UVB in the mountains in the middle of winter.

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@tim-2 Obviously I am not talking about people living in the mountains.. What makes me think I have bile issues? Because I have basically ol the symptoms? Pale stool(my poop wasn't brown for like 15 years) floating stool. Feeling like shit after eating high fat meals etc.. I think it is mainly due to combination of high estrogen and stupid low fat bodybuilding diet for years and years. When I mean low fat I mean like 5-10%. Mainstream view on low fat diet is like 30%. Which is far from low fat diet.. I was simply eating nothing but lean meat like chicken breasts, cod, egg whites, whey protein, rice etc.. Now I am trying to add olive oil to every meal. After I eat it I feel the liver area. So obviously it is doing something. But for now there is almost no fat digestion going on. Also due to SIBO I was avoiding all soluble fibers. So if there was/is some bile. It will be crazy toxic and sluggish. So at least I am taking psyllium husk powder..

Quote from Jiří on October 12, 2020, 10:07 pm

@lil-chick "However, instead, I made a point of getting outside with NO HAT and exposing a limb or two here and there--every single sunny day at noonish through all the dark months.    I'm light-skinned and white-haired, so not much of a filter. "

Heh sorry, but eating can of sardines will give you more vit D than what you did.. You can google some applications to your phone where it tells you how much vit D you can get from the sun at the moment where you are on the planet. I think that what you did helped your circadian rhythm( your biological clocks) and that helped your mood for sure...  

I'm aware of all that Jiri, but what works, works!

Perhaps sitting on the edge of a field of snow magnifies the effect?  Or perhaps because I'd been lowered-VA for half a year my D needs were lower?  Who knows, but I like not having to take supps.

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