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I see this keto diets with 70+% of calories from fat very unnatural. Because unless you are eskimo eating fat animals like sea dogs etc.. There is not enough of fat in nature. Most animals like deer or smaller animals are very lean. So it makes sense people were making glucose from protein and I agree if they were in ketosis. It was due to fasting so they were burning their own body fat, not ketosis due to eating 70+% of calories from fats.. I know you are "low carber" but we know for sure that body prefers burning carbs for energy. The key here is to eat only how much you need/how much you burn and ideally doing here and there fasting or low carb.  To teach the body using fats as a fuel as well. So person like this will eat carbs normally for their energy needs, but if they skip meal or fast. They will have no problem, because their body is trained for running on "emergency tank"...

So I am taking like 10 days now 4000/6000iu D3 + K2 complex and my skin is crazy dry wow + a lot of dandruff. Also interesting thing happened to my left eye. At first it felt like I had something in my eye, second day it was more intense + a lot more red, third day I couldn't open my eye without a lot of burning pain and tears. Like when you are poked into the eye + eyelid started to swell.. I knew that I had some small like 1 mm white "cyst" or something on my lower eyelid from the inside, but it was there for like months so I don't know how that was related to this issue, but fourth day I was looking at it and when I touched it with cotton swap it was coming out. So I pushed on it more and it came out. 1 mm white dot.. Immediately I felt relief from the burning pain in my whole eye. Two days latter my eye is ok. It was scary I was thinking that I have cancer behind the eye or something, because I felt a lot of pressure around and behind the eye as well.. So I think vit D is just starting activating my immune system and is pushing out some waste from the body..

Quote from Jiří on April 3, 2020, 10:09 am

So I am taking like 10 days now 4000/6000iu D3 + K2 complex and my skin is crazy dry wow + a lot of dandruff. Also interesting thing happened to my left eye. At first it felt like I had something in my eye, second day it was more intense + a lot more red, third day I couldn't open my eye without a lot of burning pain and tears. Like when you are poked into the eye + eyelid started to swell.. I knew that I had some small like 1 mm white "cyst" or something on my lower eyelid from the inside, but it was there for like months so I don't know how that was related to this issue, but fourth day I was looking at it and when I touched it with cotton swap it was coming out. So I pushed on it more and it came out. 1 mm white dot.. Immediately I felt relief from the burning pain in my whole eye. Two days latter my eye is ok. It was scary I was thinking that I have cancer behind the eye or something, because I felt a lot of pressure around and behind the eye as well.. So I think vit D is just starting activating my immune system and is pushing out some waste from the body..

@jiri Are you taking the two orally?   I have two good brands was thinking of taking some topically.  Natural sunlight is just started to get useful here if not raining.    Is your skin normally oily?

I use to have to white dots on my inner eye lids as well, and they all seem to be gone now.  Figured they were calcified sebum plugs... not really sure.

Jiri: "I know for sure that body prefers burning carbs for energy." That is a common belief because carbs are burned first. But carbs are burned first because the body is trying to get rid of them! The fat is our emergency backup for when food is scarce (which it never is now unless you are fasting) and the body tries very hard to protect it. Insulin takes sugar out of the blood and stores it as fat or glycogen to put it in a place where it can do no harm. 

@orion Yes I take K right from Jarrow and regulatr softgel vit D3.. Yes my skin is dry normally. Was oily 12 years ago before accutane.. I was so sun sensitive. Now it is better, but not ideal...  Yes sun has some power now. I am exposing myself every day now from the window.. I will drop D supp like next month..

@judy I am sorry that you see carbs/sugars as evil. I will not argue with you about it.. I was there like 10 years ago and I learned that low carb/keto for sure is not for everyone. If it works for you great. But I saw too many young people destroyed by diets like vegan or keto/low carb... I am 33. I want to do sports, like to ride a bike, doing weight lifting, calisthenics etc.. You need A LOT of carbs to fuel this.. There is no athlete in sports like cycling, weightlifting, athletics, hockey, football, fight sports etc. etc.. who is on keto diet. Those are glycolytic sports. Which means you can't perform sport like this without glycogen in the muscles. Yes for inactive people or people who want to lose body fat (which is like 70% of population in countries like US, UK etc..)it is ok. But for active people who are burning carbs for fuel it is not. Yes if you have liver full of glycogen and you don't have any muscles and not moving. You can't eat a lot of carbs and expect that you will not gain fat and be unhealthy. But if you are active, you have muscles that are huge tank for glycogen and you constantly burn this fuel. You can eat a lot carbs. That is common sense... Look at people in asia they were fat and sick 50-100 years ago all eating white rice with every meal???

Quote from Jiří on April 3, 2020, 11:31 am

@orion Yes I take K right from Jarrow and regulatr softgel vit D3.. Yes my skin is dry normally. Was oily 12 years ago before accutane.. I was so sun sensitive. Now it is better, but not ideal...  Yes sun has some power now. I am exposing myself every day now from the window.. I will drop D supp like next month..

@judy I am sorry that you see carbs/sugars as evil. I will not argue with you about it.. I was there like 10 years ago and I learned that low carb/keto for sure is not for everyone. If it works for you great. But I saw too many young people destroyed by diets like vegan or keto/low carb... I am 33. I want to do sports, like to ride a bike, doing weight lifting, calisthenics etc.. You need A LOT of carbs to fuel this.. There is no athlete in sports like cycling, weightlifting, athletics, hockey, football, fight sports etc. etc.. who is on keto diet. Those are glycolytic sports. Which means you can't perform sport like this without glycogen in the muscles. Yes for inactive people or people who want to lose body fat (which is like 70% of population in countries like US, UK etc..)it is ok. But for active people who are burning carbs for fuel it is not. Yes if you have liver full of glycogen and you don't have any muscles and not moving. You can't eat a lot of carbs and expect that you will not gain fat and be unhealthy. But if you are active, you have muscles that are huge tank for glycogen and you constantly burn this fuel. You can eat a lot carbs. That is common sense... Look at people in asia they were fat and sick 50-100 years ago all eating white rice with every meal???

No, I don't want to argue either. I will just say that a lot of athletes are on keto diets now because it improves their performance and endurance. Dr. Stephan Phinney and Dr. Jeff Volek have done a lot of research on this and so has Dr. Tim Noakes. If you are running on sugar, you hit the wall and have to have a sugar drink to keep going. Keto is great for marathon runners because when they tap into their fat stores, they never run out of energy. Some people may be fine on any diet, at least while they are young, active, and healthy. When insulin resistance and metabolic syndrome kicks in, low-carb or fasting is a good solution.

@judy This is really crazy.. I am sorry, but you have no idea about human performance, sports, diets of athletes etc.. Marathon runners the best of the best from African countries like Kenya are all on high carb diets grains, rice, potatoes, corn.. and during the event they eat a lot of sugar gels. 

"When insulin resistance and metabolic syndrome kicks in, low-carb or fasting is a good solution."

Really? So all people in Asia 50-100 years ago with white rice as a main source of calories ended up with insulin resistance and metabolic syndrome?? It really isn't black and white like you think.. You are typical short minded low carber. I was there like 10 years ago.. I can't help you. Just do more reserch pls..

I don't have time to explain the science at the moment. I'd suggest you look up Dr. Andreas Eenfeld, Dr. Eric Westman and Dr. Richard Feinman to read about the science. Nina Techolz has an excellent book called The Big Fat Surprise which explains the history of how we came to believe fat was bad and carbs were good. Here is a short essay from Dr. Feinman, who is a cell biologist at SUNY. (It was part of the forward to one of my books) :

“Insulin is a kind of master hormone, and although it is under the control of glucose and therefore, dietary carbohydrate, its effects are global: it regulates protein synthesis, and, most of all, it regulates lipid metabolism. In this sense, diabetes is as much a disease of lipid metabolism as of carbohydrate intolerance. Insulin determines whether fat will be stored or broken down—the enzyme, hormone sensitive lipase (HSL), is the primary target of insulin. If insulin is high, the effect is to inhibit the breakdown of fat (lipolysis). Reducing carbohydrate will relieve this inhibition, providing fatty acids (components of fat) as fuel for tissues of the body. Persistent high insulin and high carbohydrate, however, give rise to accommodation, and cells become insulin resistant. Now, fat cells may continue to put out fatty acids, even when insulin is high. These fatty acids may not be oxidized, and it is observed that they may stimulate further insulin resistance, especially if there is high glucose or fructose. So, fatty acids in the blood, a current concern of researchers, is a double-edged sword. In the context of high glucose and high insulin, they will exacerbate the metabolic condition reflected in insulin resistance. On a carbohydrate-restricted diet however, high fatty acids are a sign that fat is being broken down and oxidized for energy.”

 

 

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