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Heh so lentils experiment is not going so well. 24 hours after eating 100g of lentils and I am still bloated like 9 month pregnant, constipated. I don't wanna move, can't eat anything else etc.. Simply too much fermentable fiber.. Buckwheat, millet, brown rice are ok. They don't ferment like FODMAP types of foods.

another thing I will mention is that people mainly on white rice are also missing hugely on folate . 

Quote from r on March 27, 2020, 9:45 am

another thing I will mention is that people mainly on white rice are also missing hugely on folate . 

Why?? Most people eat white rice with things like broccoli, asparagus, avocado etc.. All great sources of folate. Also most people take B complex with folate anyway..

I meant people here who were on meat and rice diet primarily .  I dont think any one of us eats broccoli, asparagus, avocados etc here
Diet consisting white rice and beef/chicken has following nutrition profile according to cronometer 

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Yes on white rice, beef diet you definitely need take supplements. Especially if you are detoxing a lot of vit A. B complex, vitC, good vit E complex is also important.. But there is no need to be on this type of diet. In fact here on forum is topic somewhere where it is discussed. That too low vit A intake can slow down vit A detox.. Because the body will preserve it more.. So it is probably better to eat some vit A. For example in form of egg yolk here and there and things like turkey heart etc.. Which has much more nutrition than just muscle meat and will help support detox of vit A.. I think that Grants very restrictive diet is fat from optimal. It is good to eat like this first year or so, but if you eat like this 5 or 10 years which is completely crazy you will create other issues for sure..

Quote from Jiří on March 27, 2020, 8:22 am

Heh so lentils experiment is not going so well. 24 hours after eating 100g of lentils and I am still bloated like 9 month pregnant, constipated. I don't wanna move, can't eat anything else etc.. Simply too much fermentable fiber.. Buckwheat, millet, brown rice are ok. They don't ferment like FODMAP types of foods.

I know your pain (literally). I started eating beans from 50g per day and it gave me enormous gasses and abdominal pains for weeks. It was really hard to survive at work (mostly sitting). From talking with vegan friend I known that it will take a lot of time so I waited (miserably). Pills with simethicone was my best everyday friends. After around 3-4 weeks it started to be manageable. And after 6-8 months I get to eating 170g beans per day with barely any gases (no smell) and almost no bloating. I sometimes even eat 250g beans in one day with no problems.

But looks like my intestines bugs barely know any soluble fibers. Last week I tried to move from rice to millet all at once. Big mistake, really big. I was even waking at night from pains. They definitely ferment like FODMAP, you are just used to them. All other grains I try from time to time also give me gases. So for now I will do the same as I did moving from white to brown rice: every week slowly replace some white with brown rice and when it's manageable replace more. Took me weeks but now there is barely any gases and bloating from brown rice. Now I will do the same moving from rice to millet and at future will do similar with other grains.

Interesting thing is that I don't have much gas. I have simply bloated stomach and I can't eat anything else after that.. Brown rice, buckwheat, millet, quinoa etc.. are ok, because they don't ferment much.. But I found lentils that don't have that outer layer like pink lentils that are cooked to "mush" are relatively ok. So I will eat at least this version of legumes. It is also very convenient. You don't need to soak them and you can even cook them with white rice in the same pot. It is great combination..

but be careful pink lentils have vitamin A content

Quote from r on March 29, 2020, 7:52 pm

but be careful pink lentils have vitamin A content

Heh yes 100g of pink lentils have 50 iu of beta carotene.. I think I will survive this amount.. 🙂  In comparison I used to drink carrot juice. Juicing like 3kg of carrots. 500ml of carrot juice has around 92 000iu. :)))

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In reply to the question about the carnivore diet: the biggest mistake people make on the diet (other than eating a lot of organ meats) is that they eat too much protein. A well designed carnivore diet should provide all the nutrients you need; before the agricultural revolution, people lived at least part of the year from hunting and fishing, but they ate at lot of fat as well as protein. Your need for protein stays the same but on a low-carb or carnivore diet, you replace calories from carbs with fat. It keeps you full so you eat fewer calories overall.

However, they also would have experienced times when food was scarce, so they would have practiced involuntary fasting. Most of the world's major religions included periodic fasting, which would have imitated the diet of their ancestors and helped them survive on a grain based diet.

 

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