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Vitamin K2
Quote from Guest on February 8, 2019, 11:54 am
Hello,
An interesting article:
https://academic.oup.com/jn/article-abstract/114/12/2256/4755636
"The three compounds together afforded COMPLETE protection."
This is basically what I am trying to understand (see previous comments). In some way some people (including me) are protected while others suffer from that A "poison". Zinc&E apparently protect not only against the A but also against aluminum and copper toxicities. What I am suspecting here is that the A along with aluminum from vaccines chemtrails etc. are simply causing a zinc&E deficiencies. Zinc alone in itself is required by the body for virtually every function so it could explain quite a few things.
Greetings,
Dino
Hello,
An interesting article:
https://academic.oup.com/jn/article-abstract/114/12/2256/4755636
"The three compounds together afforded COMPLETE protection."
This is basically what I am trying to understand (see previous comments). In some way some people (including me) are protected while others suffer from that A "poison". Zinc&E apparently protect not only against the A but also against aluminum and copper toxicities. What I am suspecting here is that the A along with aluminum from vaccines chemtrails etc. are simply causing a zinc&E deficiencies. Zinc alone in itself is required by the body for virtually every function so it could explain quite a few things.
Greetings,
Dino
Quote from Guest on February 20, 2019, 12:03 pm
Hello,
I have RA for 30 years and it started real aggressive. The only thing that helped was to supplement with Zinc. I also tried copper supplements as some people claimed arthrites can be cured by copper. Maybe copper bracelets would help by binding some stuff but supplements did not help. As I thought that it was a bone desease I supplemented with cod-liver oil and omega-3. That didn't help either and from what I now understand the worst thing I could do. Later I discovered that vitamin E in quite high doses (1000ie) was really beneficial. I think the need for anti-oxidants is not equal for all auto-immuun diseases and also not for each individual. It was clear I needed a lot. Three years ago I started megadosing with vitamin D3 (20000 ie /day) & K2, combined with sufficient protein (1,5 gram/kg bodyweight) I was really doing very well. My body went in kind of healing mode with remarkable fast recovery. My dry skin and severe heal cracks disappeared. Till I read some advice you need to balance A & D in 5:1 ratio. I started adding moderate doses of vitamin A (10000ie/day) to the mix but felt horrible (headache & dry skin again) and throw away the bottle of vitamin A after 2 weeks. Really don't believe you need to balance A &D! Avoid A like hell and take D3 as much you need to get high -but still healthy- blood levels (blood tests are highly recomended).
Fred
Hello,
I have RA for 30 years and it started real aggressive. The only thing that helped was to supplement with Zinc. I also tried copper supplements as some people claimed arthrites can be cured by copper. Maybe copper bracelets would help by binding some stuff but supplements did not help. As I thought that it was a bone desease I supplemented with cod-liver oil and omega-3. That didn't help either and from what I now understand the worst thing I could do. Later I discovered that vitamin E in quite high doses (1000ie) was really beneficial. I think the need for anti-oxidants is not equal for all auto-immuun diseases and also not for each individual. It was clear I needed a lot. Three years ago I started megadosing with vitamin D3 (20000 ie /day) & K2, combined with sufficient protein (1,5 gram/kg bodyweight) I was really doing very well. My body went in kind of healing mode with remarkable fast recovery. My dry skin and severe heal cracks disappeared. Till I read some advice you need to balance A & D in 5:1 ratio. I started adding moderate doses of vitamin A (10000ie/day) to the mix but felt horrible (headache & dry skin again) and throw away the bottle of vitamin A after 2 weeks. Really don't believe you need to balance A &D! Avoid A like hell and take D3 as much you need to get high -but still healthy- blood levels (blood tests are highly recomended).
Fred
Quote from Guest on February 20, 2019, 12:31 pm
P.s. with regarding the megadosing D3/K2 experiment; I decided to give it a try after reading "The miraculous results of extremely high doses of the sunshine hormone vitamin D3" by Jeff T Bowles (Author). I really didn't regret my experiment as I realized that even after 30 years my body can heal from such devastating auto-immuun condition/vitamin A poisoning.
P.s. with regarding the megadosing D3/K2 experiment; I decided to give it a try after reading "The miraculous results of extremely high doses of the sunshine hormone vitamin D3" by Jeff T Bowles (Author). I really didn't regret my experiment as I realized that even after 30 years my body can heal from such devastating auto-immuun condition/vitamin A poisoning.
Quote from Guest on February 20, 2019, 1:34 pm
where/how is the best way to test for all toxins/heavymetals/bacteria/etc as well as test for balancing the vitamins/minerals?... it seems like this whole situation is impossible to figure out without really knowing how each individual is currently in regards to their unique disease/health profile.... where is the best place to do testing?
where/how is the best way to test for all toxins/heavymetals/bacteria/etc as well as test for balancing the vitamins/minerals?... it seems like this whole situation is impossible to figure out without really knowing how each individual is currently in regards to their unique disease/health profile.... where is the best place to do testing?
Quote from Guest on February 20, 2019, 1:45 pm
Quote from Guest on February 20, 2019, 12:03 pm
Hello,
I have RA for 30 years and it started real aggressive. The only thing that helped was to supplement with Zinc. I also tried copper supplements as some people claimed arthrites can be cured by copper. Maybe copper bracelets would help by binding some stuff but supplements did not help. As I thought that it was a bone desease I supplemented with cod-liver oil and omega-3. That didn't help either and from what I now understand the worst thing I could do. Later I discovered that vitamin E in quite high doses (1000ie) was really beneficial. I think the need for anti-oxidants is not equal for all auto-immuun diseases and also not for each individual. It was clear I needed a lot. Three years ago I started megadosing with vitamin D3 (20000 ie /day) & K2, combined with sufficient protein (1,5 gram/kg bodyweight) I was really doing very well. My body went in kind of healing mode with remarkable fast recovery. My dry skin and severe heal cracks disappeared. Till I read some advice you need to balance A & D in 5:1 ratio. I started adding moderate doses of vitamin A (10000ie/day) to the mix but felt horrible (headache & dry skin again) and throw away the bottle of vitamin A after 2 weeks. Really don't believe you need to balance A &D! Avoid A like hell and take D3 as much you need to get high -but still healthy- blood levels (blood tests are highly recomended).
Fred
this is what is so confusing to me...
it seems like this whole mess started with fortifying stuff with vitaminA and that is what caused the toxic levels...
So, it would seem to me that taking mega doses of vitD or vitE or vitX in synthetic mega dose forms would only be leading to more problems...
what is the real lesson here?
synthetics cause problems? this is just me guessing... im really confused tho why megadosing supplements would work to heal anything..
Quote from Guest on February 20, 2019, 12:03 pm
Hello,
I have RA for 30 years and it started real aggressive. The only thing that helped was to supplement with Zinc. I also tried copper supplements as some people claimed arthrites can be cured by copper. Maybe copper bracelets would help by binding some stuff but supplements did not help. As I thought that it was a bone desease I supplemented with cod-liver oil and omega-3. That didn't help either and from what I now understand the worst thing I could do. Later I discovered that vitamin E in quite high doses (1000ie) was really beneficial. I think the need for anti-oxidants is not equal for all auto-immuun diseases and also not for each individual. It was clear I needed a lot. Three years ago I started megadosing with vitamin D3 (20000 ie /day) & K2, combined with sufficient protein (1,5 gram/kg bodyweight) I was really doing very well. My body went in kind of healing mode with remarkable fast recovery. My dry skin and severe heal cracks disappeared. Till I read some advice you need to balance A & D in 5:1 ratio. I started adding moderate doses of vitamin A (10000ie/day) to the mix but felt horrible (headache & dry skin again) and throw away the bottle of vitamin A after 2 weeks. Really don't believe you need to balance A &D! Avoid A like hell and take D3 as much you need to get high -but still healthy- blood levels (blood tests are highly recomended).
Fred
this is what is so confusing to me...
it seems like this whole mess started with fortifying stuff with vitaminA and that is what caused the toxic levels...
So, it would seem to me that taking mega doses of vitD or vitE or vitX in synthetic mega dose forms would only be leading to more problems...
what is the real lesson here?
synthetics cause problems? this is just me guessing... im really confused tho why megadosing supplements would work to heal anything..
Quote from
Carbon on February 21, 2019, 2:36 am
I don't know why megadosing vitamin D3 helped me that lot. i was more or less following the protocol from the book and to my own astonishment it helped. P.s. I was using the doctor's best d3. I just checked the factsheet on the website of the manufacturer; I think the D3 is made of sheep wool and not derived from fish oil or made from chemicals.
I stopped the megadosing after ca. 4 months when lab test showed me that blood levels had reached 80 ng/ml. I'm now cutting down from excessive vitamin intake and if possible stop both with supplements & medicin (MTX) completely. Interesting is that Methotrexate is doing more or less the opposite as vitamin A. But MTX is synthetic and extremely toxic. Fighting poison with poison is a bad idea. With regard to Dr G's take on vit D; I agree. it crossed my mind that during the megadosing experiment with D3/K2 i also increased protein intake. My protein intake has always been low and likely the increase of protein increased also the retinol binding protein and so decreased the effect of vitamin A poisoning. The healing of the dry skin & heel cracks can be explained by that as well as lifting the brain fog but I still think that the megadosing of D3 really did something positive on top of that.
I don't know why megadosing vitamin D3 helped me that lot. i was more or less following the protocol from the book and to my own astonishment it helped. P.s. I was using the doctor's best d3. I just checked the factsheet on the website of the manufacturer; I think the D3 is made of sheep wool and not derived from fish oil or made from chemicals.
I stopped the megadosing after ca. 4 months when lab test showed me that blood levels had reached 80 ng/ml. I'm now cutting down from excessive vitamin intake and if possible stop both with supplements & medicin (MTX) completely. Interesting is that Methotrexate is doing more or less the opposite as vitamin A. But MTX is synthetic and extremely toxic. Fighting poison with poison is a bad idea. With regard to Dr G's take on vit D; I agree. it crossed my mind that during the megadosing experiment with D3/K2 i also increased protein intake. My protein intake has always been low and likely the increase of protein increased also the retinol binding protein and so decreased the effect of vitamin A poisoning. The healing of the dry skin & heel cracks can be explained by that as well as lifting the brain fog but I still think that the megadosing of D3 really did something positive on top of that.
Quote from
Billy on February 21, 2019, 8:29 am
I don't know why megadosing vitamin D3 helped me that lot.
Check out this post by Dr. Amy Proal on her "Microbe Minded" blog:
http://microbeminded.com/vitamin-d-supplements-are-immunosuppressive/
"My research, done in conjunction with the non-profit foundation Autoimmunity Research Foundation, suggests that, when taken as a supplement, the secosteroid vitamin D acts in a manner similar to that of other steroid-based medications. These medications, such as prednisone, work by slowing the activity of the immune system."
"...Immunosuppressive medications or substances have been shown to successfully palliate symptoms in the short-term, but have negative effects on a patient’s long-term health."
I don't know why megadosing vitamin D3 helped me that lot.
Check out this post by Dr. Amy Proal on her "Microbe Minded" blog:
http://microbeminded.com/vitamin-d-supplements-are-immunosuppressive/
"My research, done in conjunction with the non-profit foundation Autoimmunity Research Foundation, suggests that, when taken as a supplement, the secosteroid vitamin D acts in a manner similar to that of other steroid-based medications. These medications, such as prednisone, work by slowing the activity of the immune system."
"...Immunosuppressive medications or substances have been shown to successfully palliate symptoms in the short-term, but have negative effects on a patient’s long-term health."
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Quote from
Carbon on February 23, 2019, 9:39 am
Thanks for the link to the vitamin D post. The article advices to keep vit. D level in range 50–60 nmol/L. That looks a bit low at first sight but on the otherhand it is the same level one can achieve with 800 ie/day by supplements or with some sunshine.
Thanks for the link to the vitamin D post. The article advices to keep vit. D level in range 50–60 nmol/L. That looks a bit low at first sight but on the otherhand it is the same level one can achieve with 800 ie/day by supplements or with some sunshine.
Quote from Guest on March 16, 2019, 2:44 pm
I started taking 5000 iu of vitamin D every other day for 3 months. 9 months prior and during my Vitamin D intake I was constantly eating sweet potatoes and lots of broccoli (a year of this). I noticed my health and symptoms getting worse around the time I started vitamin D and after 3 months I am a wreck.
So for me it seems too much A and D made things even worse. Symptoms that increased were , bone and joint pains, chemical sensitivities, anxiety or head pressure/stress pain. My calcium level at the max level. I’m assuming my body is excreting excess calcium out through urine so blood test would overlook this.
i did read that K2 helps direct calcium in the right places. I have calcium build up that came very quickly, which is a sign of excess calcium and heart disease.
I started taking 5000 iu of vitamin D every other day for 3 months. 9 months prior and during my Vitamin D intake I was constantly eating sweet potatoes and lots of broccoli (a year of this). I noticed my health and symptoms getting worse around the time I started vitamin D and after 3 months I am a wreck.
So for me it seems too much A and D made things even worse. Symptoms that increased were , bone and joint pains, chemical sensitivities, anxiety or head pressure/stress pain. My calcium level at the max level. I’m assuming my body is excreting excess calcium out through urine so blood test would overlook this.
i did read that K2 helps direct calcium in the right places. I have calcium build up that came very quickly, which is a sign of excess calcium and heart disease.
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