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tim on August 25, 2020, 3:17 pm
Many years ago I took a stone from a liver flush and got it analysed. I told the doctor I thought it was a gall stone. The report came back saying it was "fecal matter" lol
Many years ago I took a stone from a liver flush and got it analysed. I told the doctor I thought it was a gall stone. The report came back saying it was "fecal matter" lol
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Jiří on August 25, 2020, 11:30 pm
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tim on August 25, 2020, 2:38 pm
@jiri
You're wrong... People can do liver flushes week after week producing thousands of stones, young healthy people. Just because people that have gallstones can follow the protocol and release stones doesn't mean most of the stones for most people doing the protocol are gallstones...
I am wrong in what? I said you can have 20-50 or whatever flushes with stones, but eventually there will be less and less until you will see none. I know people from Czech health forum doing flushes for years and after 30-50 flushes there are no stones. So how you explain that? Not many people are doing flushes every 14 days for 2 or more years... That is another level of dedication... It is funny that you think you can transform within 8-10 hours cup of oil to many "stones" that have different color, some are just soft sludge, some are partially calcified stones looking like crystals etc.. You can clearly see on some of them like they were in the liver for some time as they are made from different layers of all kinds of stuff..
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tim on August 25, 2020, 2:38 pm
@jiri
You're wrong... People can do liver flushes week after week producing thousands of stones, young healthy people. Just because people that have gallstones can follow the protocol and release stones doesn't mean most of the stones for most people doing the protocol are gallstones...
I am wrong in what? I said you can have 20-50 or whatever flushes with stones, but eventually there will be less and less until you will see none. I know people from Czech health forum doing flushes for years and after 30-50 flushes there are no stones. So how you explain that? Not many people are doing flushes every 14 days for 2 or more years... That is another level of dedication... It is funny that you think you can transform within 8-10 hours cup of oil to many "stones" that have different color, some are just soft sludge, some are partially calcified stones looking like crystals etc.. You can clearly see on some of them like they were in the liver for some time as they are made from different layers of all kinds of stuff..
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Ourania on August 25, 2020, 11:51 pm
This happened to me and my husband. After 53 liver flushes producing a variety of stones the last three were not producing any. This last was about 15 years ago. Since we have done one flush per year with no results.
This happened to me and my husband. After 53 liver flushes producing a variety of stones the last three were not producing any. This last was about 15 years ago. Since we have done one flush per year with no results.
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Jiří on August 26, 2020, 12:33 am
@ourania nice.. Btw old school people in Greece, Italy.. are doing mini flushes every day. Every morning on empty stomach like 50ml of olive oil.. Here in Czech Rep. old school people do something similar, but with plum brandy lol. 😀
@ourania nice.. Btw old school people in Greece, Italy.. are doing mini flushes every day. Every morning on empty stomach like 50ml of olive oil.. Here in Czech Rep. old school people do something similar, but with plum brandy lol. 😀
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Mattia on August 26, 2020, 4:21 am
@tim @jiri So the basics of liver flushing is abstaining from fat for some days and then having a huge portion of fat ?
I think that consuming 250ml of olive oil will result in massive digestive stress and indigestion
@tim @jiri So the basics of liver flushing is abstaining from fat for some days and then having a huge portion of fat ?
I think that consuming 250ml of olive oil will result in massive digestive stress and indigestion
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tim on August 26, 2020, 4:31 am
@jiri
About 10% of the population has gallstones, that figure is much less in young healthy people. Yet if a young healthy person does the liver flush again and again they can keep passing stones, thousands of them. Where are all these gallbladders clogged with stones in young healthy cadavers? Doctors can easily see gallstones with ultrasound.
No, it's funny that you are willing to ignore the sound points I'm making and are seeing gallstones that aren't there.
Btw, it takes months or years for gallstone drugs to break up and soften gallstones yet apple juice will do it in a week? No.
@jiri
About 10% of the population has gallstones, that figure is much less in young healthy people. Yet if a young healthy person does the liver flush again and again they can keep passing stones, thousands of them. Where are all these gallbladders clogged with stones in young healthy cadavers? Doctors can easily see gallstones with ultrasound.
No, it's funny that you are willing to ignore the sound points I'm making and are seeing gallstones that aren't there.
Btw, it takes months or years for gallstone drugs to break up and soften gallstones yet apple juice will do it in a week? No.
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Jiří on August 26, 2020, 4:49 am
@tim-2 most of the garbage is in the bile ducts not in the gallbladder and also you still don't understand that most stones in "healthy" people is just very thick bile/sludge or soft not calcified stones. Once you have bigger calcified stone or stones in bile duct or gallbladder that is the source of pain for people when they eat fatty foods. That hard calcified stone will move in bile ducts which is very painful. Same thing with kidney stones.. If they are soft not calcified they are no painful.. Anyway even if you are right(you are not.. 😀 ) it makes people feel better and healthier.. That is the main point and that's why many people are doing them for years.. Nobody will do something like that for so long if it doesn't work..
@tim-2 most of the garbage is in the bile ducts not in the gallbladder and also you still don't understand that most stones in "healthy" people is just very thick bile/sludge or soft not calcified stones. Once you have bigger calcified stone or stones in bile duct or gallbladder that is the source of pain for people when they eat fatty foods. That hard calcified stone will move in bile ducts which is very painful. Same thing with kidney stones.. If they are soft not calcified they are no painful.. Anyway even if you are right(you are not.. 😀 ) it makes people feel better and healthier.. That is the main point and that's why many people are doing them for years.. Nobody will do something like that for so long if it doesn't work..
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tim on August 26, 2020, 5:04 am
@jiri
Cholesterol stones are part of that statistic I gave. I'm specifically addressing stones from the flush, not "sludge". Hundreds of stones passing painlessly through the bile ducts without problem in young healthy people that have very low rates of gallstones (or liver stones), yeah right...
Before you said calcified stones often come out in flushes and now you are saying that calcified stones moving through the ducts is very painful yet hardly anyone experiences pain when doing the flushes.
Why are you talking about the benefits? I introduced the subject in this thread because of the benefits of the liver flush...
@jiri
Cholesterol stones are part of that statistic I gave. I'm specifically addressing stones from the flush, not "sludge". Hundreds of stones passing painlessly through the bile ducts without problem in young healthy people that have very low rates of gallstones (or liver stones), yeah right...
Before you said calcified stones often come out in flushes and now you are saying that calcified stones moving through the ducts is very painful yet hardly anyone experiences pain when doing the flushes.
Why are you talking about the benefits? I introduced the subject in this thread because of the benefits of the liver flush...
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Mattia on August 26, 2020, 4:21 am
@tim @jiri So the basics of liver flushing is abstaining from fat for some days and then having a huge portion of fat ?
I think that consuming 250ml of olive oil will result in massive digestive stress and indigestion
You just have to abstain from fat on the day of the liver flush.
Drinking the olive oil is very disgusting and then you tend to feel sick the whole night...
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Mattia on August 26, 2020, 4:21 am
@tim @jiri So the basics of liver flushing is abstaining from fat for some days and then having a huge portion of fat ?
I think that consuming 250ml of olive oil will result in massive digestive stress and indigestion
You just have to abstain from fat on the day of the liver flush.
Drinking the olive oil is very disgusting and then you tend to feel sick the whole night...
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Jiří on August 26, 2020, 5:57 am
@tim-2 "You just have to abstain from fat on the day of the liver flush."
not true you need to eat low fat ideally whole week. So there will be maximum bile build up in the gallbladder. On the day of the flush you are not eating at all. Because you want clean colon. That's why are also enemas recommended. Also it is not the olive oil that makes you feel sick, but the combination of fasting and drinking A LOT of epsom salt... Tim don't you think that you should try it before you start talking about it? You are so sure about everything it is like you have done 50 flushes lol..
@tim-2 "You just have to abstain from fat on the day of the liver flush."
not true you need to eat low fat ideally whole week. So there will be maximum bile build up in the gallbladder. On the day of the flush you are not eating at all. Because you want clean colon. That's why are also enemas recommended. Also it is not the olive oil that makes you feel sick, but the combination of fasting and drinking A LOT of epsom salt... Tim don't you think that you should try it before you start talking about it? You are so sure about everything it is like you have done 50 flushes lol..
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