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AI take on virology
Quote from Mattias2 on December 9, 2024, 8:26 amWhy is chickenpox identical throughout time and space? Doesn't it know it's supposed to "mutate"? Kovid allegedly did every couple of weeks. How can it reach the remotest island, ship at sea and isolated tribe and persist there from generation to generation, never even deviating in expression? (While Ebola seems firmly stuck in Congo:))
Why does everyone laugh when one starts to laugh, cry, vomit, etc? Extremely "contagious". How do women synchronize their periods? What is premonition? Lots of pathways for behavior induced by mimicking. Younger sibling copies older, friend copies friend.
If CP, measles, etc. is a bodily process, then the "vaccine" acts on the pathway of that process. Like they can make chemicals act on almost any bodily function today. There is research to show that adult health is affected by childhood inhibition of these conditions.
There is also the appearance of priority: the 19th century doctor healed influenza with mercury or arsenic, because the body was confronted with a stronger poison, and had to shut ongoing projects down.
If the cold or flu is a cleansing process, then it would make sense that peers in need of one follow when someone has deemed it a good time to have one. If you don't need to, you don't "catch it", like the docs, nurses and cashiers of the world. The book Can You Catch a Cold? goes through hundreds of documented attempts to transmit disease.
If a family member or colleague needs to cleanse, chances are their peers also need to, since they share much of the same environment and habits.
Bacteria don't cause disease, just like firemen don't cause fire. Daredevil lecturers have been documented to ingested harmful bacteria in front of classes and audiences since their discovery. If it has nothing to act on, it won't.
Of course, no one is obliged to explain any of this when making the case that virology is a pseudoscience. Related topics, but separate.
Why is chickenpox identical throughout time and space? Doesn't it know it's supposed to "mutate"? Kovid allegedly did every couple of weeks. How can it reach the remotest island, ship at sea and isolated tribe and persist there from generation to generation, never even deviating in expression? (While Ebola seems firmly stuck in Congo:))
Why does everyone laugh when one starts to laugh, cry, vomit, etc? Extremely "contagious". How do women synchronize their periods? What is premonition? Lots of pathways for behavior induced by mimicking. Younger sibling copies older, friend copies friend.
If CP, measles, etc. is a bodily process, then the "vaccine" acts on the pathway of that process. Like they can make chemicals act on almost any bodily function today. There is research to show that adult health is affected by childhood inhibition of these conditions.
There is also the appearance of priority: the 19th century doctor healed influenza with mercury or arsenic, because the body was confronted with a stronger poison, and had to shut ongoing projects down.
If the cold or flu is a cleansing process, then it would make sense that peers in need of one follow when someone has deemed it a good time to have one. If you don't need to, you don't "catch it", like the docs, nurses and cashiers of the world. The book Can You Catch a Cold? goes through hundreds of documented attempts to transmit disease.
If a family member or colleague needs to cleanse, chances are their peers also need to, since they share much of the same environment and habits.
Bacteria don't cause disease, just like firemen don't cause fire. Daredevil lecturers have been documented to ingested harmful bacteria in front of classes and audiences since their discovery. If it has nothing to act on, it won't.
Of course, no one is obliged to explain any of this when making the case that virology is a pseudoscience. Related topics, but separate.
Quote from lil chick on December 9, 2024, 10:08 amPersonally, I do believe that VA is mobilized in illness and afterward you are probably left with damage from the VA's to your organs...and benefits from VA's being discharged via mucus, the runs, vomiting. And that people with VA overload probably over-react and even die of their own mobilization.
But I'm leaning toward there actually being sicknesses passed around, (not just catchy detoxes) and that they are possibly in the category of parasites. We do know the world is full of parasites. There are all sorts of icky videos in which you can prove this to yourself. They are of all sorts from microscopic to big fat leaches. Parasites even have parasites!
https://x.com/newstart_2024/status/1866096971003662467
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.: "Yesterday the chief attorney for FDA admitted because he lost the case in court against the doctor, but there was no reason to discourage people from taking ivermectin. Ivermectin was a very, very devastating cure for COVID, it literally obliterated COVID. And by depriving people of ivermectin, many, many people, millions of people around the globe died." (more at link)
I've heard of people taking ivermectin (and other anti-parasitical) for other things. Cancer, for instance. Fungus.
I think the reason many of us here appear to catch fewer things might be that we don't mount over-reactions anymore. I did sort of wonder about my low-VA friend and her problems with worms. I worried that her non-toxic lifestyle might not have enough weapons in store. In fighting parasites are we going to need toxins? I guess I have heard of the rife machine which kills them with current.
Personally, I do believe that VA is mobilized in illness and afterward you are probably left with damage from the VA's to your organs...and benefits from VA's being discharged via mucus, the runs, vomiting. And that people with VA overload probably over-react and even die of their own mobilization.
But I'm leaning toward there actually being sicknesses passed around, (not just catchy detoxes) and that they are possibly in the category of parasites. We do know the world is full of parasites. There are all sorts of icky videos in which you can prove this to yourself. They are of all sorts from microscopic to big fat leaches. Parasites even have parasites!
https://x.com/newstart_2024/status/1866096971003662467
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.: "Yesterday the chief attorney for FDA admitted because he lost the case in court against the doctor, but there was no reason to discourage people from taking ivermectin. Ivermectin was a very, very devastating cure for COVID, it literally obliterated COVID. And by depriving people of ivermectin, many, many people, millions of people around the globe died." (more at link)
I've heard of people taking ivermectin (and other anti-parasitical) for other things. Cancer, for instance. Fungus.
I think the reason many of us here appear to catch fewer things might be that we don't mount over-reactions anymore. I did sort of wonder about my low-VA friend and her problems with worms. I worried that her non-toxic lifestyle might not have enough weapons in store. In fighting parasites are we going to need toxins? I guess I have heard of the rife machine which kills them with current.
Quote from Tricky on December 9, 2024, 2:46 pmQuote from Mattias2 on December 9, 2024, 8:26 amWhy is chickenpox identical throughout time and space? Doesn't it know it's supposed to "mutate"? Kovid allegedly did every couple of weeks. How can it reach the remotest island, ship at sea and isolated tribe and persist there from generation to generation, never even deviating in expression? (While Ebola seems firmly stuck in Congo:))
Why does everyone laugh when one starts to laugh, cry, vomit, etc? Extremely "contagious". How do women synchronize their periods? What is premonition? Lots of pathways for behavior induced by mimicking. Younger sibling copies older, friend copies friend.
If CP, measles, etc. is a bodily process, then the "vaccine" acts on the pathway of that process. Like they can make chemicals act on almost any bodily function today. There is research to show that adult health is affected by childhood inhibition of these conditions.
There is also the appearance of priority: the 19th century doctor healed influenza with mercury or arsenic, because the body was confronted with a stronger poison, and had to shut ongoing projects down.
If the cold or flu is a cleansing process, then it would make sense that peers in need of one follow when someone has deemed it a good time to have one. If you don't need to, you don't "catch it", like the docs, nurses and cashiers of the world. The book Can You Catch a Cold? goes through hundreds of documented attempts to transmit disease.
If a family member or colleague needs to cleanse, chances are their peers also need to, since they share much of the same environment and habits.
Bacteria don't cause disease, just like firemen don't cause fire. Daredevil lecturers have been documented to ingested harmful bacteria in front of classes and audiences since their discovery. If it has nothing to act on, it won't.
Of course, no one is obliged to explain any of this when making the case that virology is a pseudoscience. Related topics, but separate.
@lil-chick
There you have it. In a tour de force, the updated model that supplants germ theory is...[drumroll please]...behavior mimicry! It's like synchronized menstruation, but non-discriminatory! It's like fashion! It's like premonition, telepathy, and divine intervention all rolled into one big fruitcake donut hole! Fantastic!
While the smart people of this world have been doing real science by shooting bullets through their windscreens and inhaling the results (no osmosis needed here!), the dullards have been wasting their time working on pure abstractions with paper and pencil and coming up with stupid ideas like gravity and germ theory.
Quote from Mattias2 on December 9, 2024, 8:26 amWhy is chickenpox identical throughout time and space? Doesn't it know it's supposed to "mutate"? Kovid allegedly did every couple of weeks. How can it reach the remotest island, ship at sea and isolated tribe and persist there from generation to generation, never even deviating in expression? (While Ebola seems firmly stuck in Congo:))
Why does everyone laugh when one starts to laugh, cry, vomit, etc? Extremely "contagious". How do women synchronize their periods? What is premonition? Lots of pathways for behavior induced by mimicking. Younger sibling copies older, friend copies friend.
If CP, measles, etc. is a bodily process, then the "vaccine" acts on the pathway of that process. Like they can make chemicals act on almost any bodily function today. There is research to show that adult health is affected by childhood inhibition of these conditions.
There is also the appearance of priority: the 19th century doctor healed influenza with mercury or arsenic, because the body was confronted with a stronger poison, and had to shut ongoing projects down.
If the cold or flu is a cleansing process, then it would make sense that peers in need of one follow when someone has deemed it a good time to have one. If you don't need to, you don't "catch it", like the docs, nurses and cashiers of the world. The book Can You Catch a Cold? goes through hundreds of documented attempts to transmit disease.
If a family member or colleague needs to cleanse, chances are their peers also need to, since they share much of the same environment and habits.
Bacteria don't cause disease, just like firemen don't cause fire. Daredevil lecturers have been documented to ingested harmful bacteria in front of classes and audiences since their discovery. If it has nothing to act on, it won't.
Of course, no one is obliged to explain any of this when making the case that virology is a pseudoscience. Related topics, but separate.
There you have it. In a tour de force, the updated model that supplants germ theory is...[drumroll please]...behavior mimicry! It's like synchronized menstruation, but non-discriminatory! It's like fashion! It's like premonition, telepathy, and divine intervention all rolled into one big fruitcake donut hole! Fantastic!
While the smart people of this world have been doing real science by shooting bullets through their windscreens and inhaling the results (no osmosis needed here!), the dullards have been wasting their time working on pure abstractions with paper and pencil and coming up with stupid ideas like gravity and germ theory.
Quote from Janelle525 on December 9, 2024, 3:24 pmI don't even give one iota of thought about viruses anymore. My kids are completely unvaxxed, none of us even get sick anymore, they never needed a doctor. Parasites on the otherhand... they are definitely real.
I don't even give one iota of thought about viruses anymore. My kids are completely unvaxxed, none of us even get sick anymore, they never needed a doctor. Parasites on the otherhand... they are definitely real.
Quote from Tricky on December 9, 2024, 4:55 pmQuote from Mattias2 on December 9, 2024, 8:26 amWhy is chickenpox identical throughout time and space? Doesn't it know it's supposed to "mutate"? Kovid allegedly did every couple of weeks. How can it reach the remotest island, ship at sea and isolated tribe and persist there from generation to generation, never even deviating in expression? (While Ebola seems firmly stuck in Congo:))
Why does everyone laugh when one starts to laugh, cry, vomit, etc? Extremely "contagious". How do women synchronize their periods? What is premonition? Lots of pathways for behavior induced by mimicking. Younger sibling copies older, friend copies friend.
If CP, measles, etc. is a bodily process, then the "vaccine" acts on the pathway of that process. Like they can make chemicals act on almost any bodily function today. There is research to show that adult health is affected by childhood inhibition of these conditions.
There is also the appearance of priority: the 19th century doctor healed influenza with mercury or arsenic, because the body was confronted with a stronger poison, and had to shut ongoing projects down.
If the cold or flu is a cleansing process, then it would make sense that peers in need of one follow when someone has deemed it a good time to have one. If you don't need to, you don't "catch it", like the docs, nurses and cashiers of the world. The book Can You Catch a Cold? goes through hundreds of documented attempts to transmit disease.
If a family member or colleague needs to cleanse, chances are their peers also need to, since they share much of the same environment and habits.
Bacteria don't cause disease, just like firemen don't cause fire. Daredevil lecturers have been documented to ingested harmful bacteria in front of classes and audiences since their discovery. If it has nothing to act on, it won't.
Of course, no one is obliged to explain any of this when making the case that virology is a pseudoscience. Related topics, but separate.
@mattias2
There are publications identifying mutations/variants in Varicella zoster (chickenpox). For example: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2738511/
The question is, why do some viruses more frequently produce variants that persist through time. If the dominant strain(s) of VZV has indeed remained relatively stable through time (I don't know if that is true), why is that the case when the dominant strains of some coronaviruses and influenzas change so rapidly? It depends on differences in rates of mutation and evolutionary pressures. The more successful a host's immune system is at eradicating a viral infection and preventing the spread of a given virus, the more selective pressure there is on that virus to evolve into a different, more successful variant. I wonder if there is a relationship between the ability for a virus to persist in the body long-term, as is the case with VZV, HSV, CMV, EBV, and the rate of change in dominant variants, such that viruses like coronaviruses and influenzas that are not known to persist in the body long-term evolve new variants at a much faster rate than viruses that do persist in a "dormant" state for longer periods of time.
Quote from Mattias2 on December 9, 2024, 8:26 amWhy is chickenpox identical throughout time and space? Doesn't it know it's supposed to "mutate"? Kovid allegedly did every couple of weeks. How can it reach the remotest island, ship at sea and isolated tribe and persist there from generation to generation, never even deviating in expression? (While Ebola seems firmly stuck in Congo:))
Why does everyone laugh when one starts to laugh, cry, vomit, etc? Extremely "contagious". How do women synchronize their periods? What is premonition? Lots of pathways for behavior induced by mimicking. Younger sibling copies older, friend copies friend.
If CP, measles, etc. is a bodily process, then the "vaccine" acts on the pathway of that process. Like they can make chemicals act on almost any bodily function today. There is research to show that adult health is affected by childhood inhibition of these conditions.
There is also the appearance of priority: the 19th century doctor healed influenza with mercury or arsenic, because the body was confronted with a stronger poison, and had to shut ongoing projects down.
If the cold or flu is a cleansing process, then it would make sense that peers in need of one follow when someone has deemed it a good time to have one. If you don't need to, you don't "catch it", like the docs, nurses and cashiers of the world. The book Can You Catch a Cold? goes through hundreds of documented attempts to transmit disease.
If a family member or colleague needs to cleanse, chances are their peers also need to, since they share much of the same environment and habits.
Bacteria don't cause disease, just like firemen don't cause fire. Daredevil lecturers have been documented to ingested harmful bacteria in front of classes and audiences since their discovery. If it has nothing to act on, it won't.
Of course, no one is obliged to explain any of this when making the case that virology is a pseudoscience. Related topics, but separate.
There are publications identifying mutations/variants in Varicella zoster (chickenpox). For example: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2738511/
The question is, why do some viruses more frequently produce variants that persist through time. If the dominant strain(s) of VZV has indeed remained relatively stable through time (I don't know if that is true), why is that the case when the dominant strains of some coronaviruses and influenzas change so rapidly? It depends on differences in rates of mutation and evolutionary pressures. The more successful a host's immune system is at eradicating a viral infection and preventing the spread of a given virus, the more selective pressure there is on that virus to evolve into a different, more successful variant. I wonder if there is a relationship between the ability for a virus to persist in the body long-term, as is the case with VZV, HSV, CMV, EBV, and the rate of change in dominant variants, such that viruses like coronaviruses and influenzas that are not known to persist in the body long-term evolve new variants at a much faster rate than viruses that do persist in a "dormant" state for longer periods of time.
Quote from Joe2 on December 10, 2024, 12:03 amhttps://dailynewsfromaolf.substack.com/p/the-wonder-twins-six-examples-of
https://dailynewsfromaolf.substack.com/p/the-wonder-twins-six-examples-of
Quote from Mattias2 on December 10, 2024, 12:18 amThe point being made in the first post of this thread is that virus theory has never been properly evidenced. It's based on belief.
Alternative explanations may be woo-woo, but that's beside the point.
The point being made in the first post of this thread is that virus theory has never been properly evidenced. It's based on belief.
Alternative explanations may be woo-woo, but that's beside the point.
Quote from lil chick on December 10, 2024, 6:45 amQuote from Joe2 on December 10, 2024, 12:03 amhttps://dailynewsfromaolf.substack.com/p/the-wonder-twins-six-examples-of
Wow that is a game-changer article (about con-joined twins) and I'm only half way through it. Thanks for posting it.
My frequent every-thing-must-go nights (in my estimation) were about my brain/body deciding it was poisoned. The article is about con-joined twins who each have their own brains. Each brain has to decide whether to mount a campaign. It has to decide to fight something. Each brain is interpreting bodily events differently and making different immune system decisions. Without the decision to fight something, the person doesn't feel ill. The fight IS the ill, or a grand portion of it.
Quote from Joe2 on December 10, 2024, 12:03 amhttps://dailynewsfromaolf.substack.com/p/the-wonder-twins-six-examples-of
Wow that is a game-changer article (about con-joined twins) and I'm only half way through it. Thanks for posting it.
My frequent every-thing-must-go nights (in my estimation) were about my brain/body deciding it was poisoned. The article is about con-joined twins who each have their own brains. Each brain has to decide whether to mount a campaign. It has to decide to fight something. Each brain is interpreting bodily events differently and making different immune system decisions. Without the decision to fight something, the person doesn't feel ill. The fight IS the ill, or a grand portion of it.
Quote from lil chick on December 10, 2024, 7:07 amQuote from Mattias2 on December 10, 2024, 12:18 amThe point being made in the first post of this thread is that virus theory has never been properly evidenced. It's based on belief.
Alternative explanations may be woo-woo, but that's beside the point.
@tricky I think this is an interesting challenge! I'd like to see you parse apart the AI's logic, that no virus isolation has ever occurred without those things being added (which cloud the issue)
@mattias2 I agree that there are two different discussions going on here 1. that shenanigans might be going on with regards to viral research 2. what are viruses
I mentioned Cary Mullis back a page or two and his point of view, and hey I'm not an expert, but I think his point of view was that HIV doesn't cause aids, and that the PCR test can find whatever you want it to find if you do it enough times. (and he worked on the invention of it) I don't think he was saying that there were people out there with busted immune systems (aids), just that HIV wasn't the culprit.
Quote from Mattias2 on December 10, 2024, 12:18 amThe point being made in the first post of this thread is that virus theory has never been properly evidenced. It's based on belief.
Alternative explanations may be woo-woo, but that's beside the point.
@tricky I think this is an interesting challenge! I'd like to see you parse apart the AI's logic, that no virus isolation has ever occurred without those things being added (which cloud the issue)
@mattias2 I agree that there are two different discussions going on here 1. that shenanigans might be going on with regards to viral research 2. what are viruses
I mentioned Cary Mullis back a page or two and his point of view, and hey I'm not an expert, but I think his point of view was that HIV doesn't cause aids, and that the PCR test can find whatever you want it to find if you do it enough times. (and he worked on the invention of it) I don't think he was saying that there were people out there with busted immune systems (aids), just that HIV wasn't the culprit.
Quote from lil chick on December 10, 2024, 8:10 aminteresting question answered here with the approved answers. "If viruses are not alive how can they replicate or mutate."
So, I suppose the problem with isolating viruses is they aren't alive unless they are in a living cell and they use the living cell to do stuff. That does sound so parasitical doesn't it? Perhaps not surprising that anti-parasicals would work.
But it also presents a big problem with proving their existence. Since when they are alive they just look like living human cells.
interesting question answered here with the approved answers. "If viruses are not alive how can they replicate or mutate."
So, I suppose the problem with isolating viruses is they aren't alive unless they are in a living cell and they use the living cell to do stuff. That does sound so parasitical doesn't it? Perhaps not surprising that anti-parasicals would work.
But it also presents a big problem with proving their existence. Since when they are alive they just look like living human cells.