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Calcium
Quote from tim on June 19, 2020, 8:45 pm@samuli
By the way, I was wrong to criticise the Sperti lamp. It probably is the best solution if one is unable to get regular full body sun.
By the way, I was wrong to criticise the Sperti lamp. It probably is the best solution if one is unable to get regular full body sun.
Quote from Jiří on June 19, 2020, 10:17 pm@samuli You was me many many many years a go? In what? You are vegan now and you think that it is the best for everyone? That is the miracle I need to learn? lol... Btw I don't care at all who is wrong or who is right. Nobody is right about everything and everyone. I just want recover MY health so I have energy to live normal life like average people. I am not here to be another internet guru that knows everything and who is always right..
@tim-2 I don't know why you have the need to talk like this all the time? It is some superiority complex or what? When I write something it really doesn't mean it is 100% correct and true. What I write is what I think.. From my perspective. So if you see something what you think is BS. You can break down my post and drop some knowledge. So I can learn something new. I am not that sensitive like others here. I will not start to cry if someone says "you are wrong in this, this and this and that is why.." But when you need to show your superiority in every single post it is hard for me as well to not send you somewhere.. Btw I am 34 (in 3 moths) and my health issues started 13-14yo with my hypothyroidsm, acne and from that moment I was learning. So I am not some 18 yo kid who is couple of months on forum about health and thinks that he knows everything. I learn every day that I don't know anything and that's great. I can learn something.. Anyway in case of my calcium status. I think it is clear that my calcium intake was really low for many years + vit A toxicity and vit D deficiency didn't help that at all. So will see if something changes by taking like 600-800mg of calcium from cal citrate and by taking some vit D + vit A low diet.. This is the only think that I didn't change last 6-7 years. Because "I can't take vit D and calcium" it will give me heart attack. Lower my potassium and up my calcium on hair test even more etc.. Basically all those if or maybe. Meanwhile I have all those symptoms of low D and low calcium which makes sense when you can't go on the sun due to crazy sun sensitivity and when your calcium intake is under 300mg because "I can't" take calcium supplements and I can't eat dairy that maybe gives me calcium, but another 10 problems as well.. Btw It looks like write this to myself. So you can ask why I don't say this to myself just in the head. Well because maybe someone can read it and say "hey bro I think maybe this and that" So I can hear what someone else thinks about it from their perspective. Ideally without any personal feelings attached to that..
Edit- I had delayed puberty for sure and I don't have sense of smell at all. So it looks like Kallmann syndrome.. Fortunately my puberty and development somewhat started. So I am not completely sexually under developed and I don't have any serious "defects" like micro penis, balls stucked inside or cleft lip. But they also say some with kallmann have only one kidney. Hopefully that is not my case lol.. So who knows what is going on with me. If I have fucked up genes..
@samuli You was me many many many years a go? In what? You are vegan now and you think that it is the best for everyone? That is the miracle I need to learn? lol... Btw I don't care at all who is wrong or who is right. Nobody is right about everything and everyone. I just want recover MY health so I have energy to live normal life like average people. I am not here to be another internet guru that knows everything and who is always right..
@tim-2 I don't know why you have the need to talk like this all the time? It is some superiority complex or what? When I write something it really doesn't mean it is 100% correct and true. What I write is what I think.. From my perspective. So if you see something what you think is BS. You can break down my post and drop some knowledge. So I can learn something new. I am not that sensitive like others here. I will not start to cry if someone says "you are wrong in this, this and this and that is why.." But when you need to show your superiority in every single post it is hard for me as well to not send you somewhere.. Btw I am 34 (in 3 moths) and my health issues started 13-14yo with my hypothyroidsm, acne and from that moment I was learning. So I am not some 18 yo kid who is couple of months on forum about health and thinks that he knows everything. I learn every day that I don't know anything and that's great. I can learn something.. Anyway in case of my calcium status. I think it is clear that my calcium intake was really low for many years + vit A toxicity and vit D deficiency didn't help that at all. So will see if something changes by taking like 600-800mg of calcium from cal citrate and by taking some vit D + vit A low diet.. This is the only think that I didn't change last 6-7 years. Because "I can't take vit D and calcium" it will give me heart attack. Lower my potassium and up my calcium on hair test even more etc.. Basically all those if or maybe. Meanwhile I have all those symptoms of low D and low calcium which makes sense when you can't go on the sun due to crazy sun sensitivity and when your calcium intake is under 300mg because "I can't" take calcium supplements and I can't eat dairy that maybe gives me calcium, but another 10 problems as well.. Btw It looks like write this to myself. So you can ask why I don't say this to myself just in the head. Well because maybe someone can read it and say "hey bro I think maybe this and that" So I can hear what someone else thinks about it from their perspective. Ideally without any personal feelings attached to that..
Edit- I had delayed puberty for sure and I don't have sense of smell at all. So it looks like Kallmann syndrome.. Fortunately my puberty and development somewhat started. So I am not completely sexually under developed and I don't have any serious "defects" like micro penis, balls stucked inside or cleft lip. But they also say some with kallmann have only one kidney. Hopefully that is not my case lol.. So who knows what is going on with me. If I have fucked up genes..
Quote from Sam on June 19, 2020, 10:55 pm@jiri
I say this one more time so maybe you understand then. I AM NOT VEGAN. I DO NOT FOLLOW VEGAN IDEOLOGY. I'm starchivore, I eat only real unprocessed plant foods as they are in nature. Like I said, years ago I was making fun of vegans too, just like you, but that was because I was just talking out of my ass without any knowledge.
BTW, years ago I took 30mg of MK4 and 1000mcg of MK7 K2 for two whole years every single day, just for fun to see what would happen. Nothing happened. It's human nature to search the magic pill that cures everything, I get that. K2 is not it.
It's so funny when you are making fun of me and say that my teeth are gonna fall off because I am "vegan", but my teeth are perfect and you are the one whose teeth are in bad shape.
So your master plan to get well and live happily ever after is making fun of "vegans" and their nutrient deficiencies, while in fact you are the one who is suffering from all those deficiencies.
I don't want you to go "vegan", it makes no difference to me what you do. I'm not here to protect the animals that you murder, just keep doing you man. It seems to be working for you so well. Have a nice day Jiri, go have a nice double cheese burger, you have earned it.
I say this one more time so maybe you understand then. I AM NOT VEGAN. I DO NOT FOLLOW VEGAN IDEOLOGY. I'm starchivore, I eat only real unprocessed plant foods as they are in nature. Like I said, years ago I was making fun of vegans too, just like you, but that was because I was just talking out of my ass without any knowledge.
BTW, years ago I took 30mg of MK4 and 1000mcg of MK7 K2 for two whole years every single day, just for fun to see what would happen. Nothing happened. It's human nature to search the magic pill that cures everything, I get that. K2 is not it.
It's so funny when you are making fun of me and say that my teeth are gonna fall off because I am "vegan", but my teeth are perfect and you are the one whose teeth are in bad shape.
So your master plan to get well and live happily ever after is making fun of "vegans" and their nutrient deficiencies, while in fact you are the one who is suffering from all those deficiencies.
I don't want you to go "vegan", it makes no difference to me what you do. I'm not here to protect the animals that you murder, just keep doing you man. It seems to be working for you so well. Have a nice day Jiri, go have a nice double cheese burger, you have earned it.
Quote from Jiří on June 20, 2020, 12:35 am@samuli
"I AM NOT VEGAN. I DO NOT FOLLOW VEGAN IDEOLOGY."
"I'm starchivore, I eat only real unprocessed plant foods as they are in nature."
So you don't follow vegan ideology, but you are vegan.. Btw where I was talking about your teeth or about vit K2? You are so confused and angry. I see that most vegans act like this. Very irritated, unstable, angry, anxious.. Wonder why is that..
"I AM NOT VEGAN. I DO NOT FOLLOW VEGAN IDEOLOGY."
"I'm starchivore, I eat only real unprocessed plant foods as they are in nature."
So you don't follow vegan ideology, but you are vegan.. Btw where I was talking about your teeth or about vit K2? You are so confused and angry. I see that most vegans act like this. Very irritated, unstable, angry, anxious.. Wonder why is that..
Quote from Sam on June 20, 2020, 12:45 amVeganism is a way of living which seeks to exclude, as far as is possible and practicable, all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose. It is ideology, not some fad diet, but I don't expect you to understand the difference.
You truly are a special little boy Jiri, but I don't have the time to hold your hand.
Veganism is a way of living which seeks to exclude, as far as is possible and practicable, all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose. It is ideology, not some fad diet, but I don't expect you to understand the difference.
You truly are a special little boy Jiri, but I don't have the time to hold your hand.
Quote from tim on June 20, 2020, 12:48 amThis is not addressed to anyone in particular.
If we are trying to further our understanding of this topic everybody needs to follow a code when communicating with one another. If somebody explains what they think about something and why then any constructive responses from people that disagree need to clearly explain why they think the idea is incorrect in a logical way. Simply stating that ones disagrees is pointless, nobody cares. Attacking the person (ad hominem), reasoning that does not follow a logical progression (non sequitur) or a response that implies that someone said something they didn't (strawman) is not acceptable. As soon as someone uses a logical fallacy any momentum towards the truth tends to disappear.
Unfortunately very few people are familiar with logical fallacies and sound argument. It isn't taught in schools, we have to take the time to educate ourselves.
To anyone that thinks that I have a superiority complex or I think I'm smarter than I am: That's your problem, not mine. If logical fallacies are avoided in a discussion then individual differences in intelligence and knowledge don't disrupt or create any problem. Anyone that doesn't have a valid response avoids writing one.
Quite a few people here are not very well and want further info or just want to send messages of support between each other. That must be respected and nobody should be dismissed or ridiculed for that. Likewise some are here to further our understanding of this subject and to further refine what we are doing through discussion, this discussion must be respected too, responses that do not involve sound reasoning are not acceptable.
This is not addressed to anyone in particular.
If we are trying to further our understanding of this topic everybody needs to follow a code when communicating with one another. If somebody explains what they think about something and why then any constructive responses from people that disagree need to clearly explain why they think the idea is incorrect in a logical way. Simply stating that ones disagrees is pointless, nobody cares. Attacking the person (ad hominem), reasoning that does not follow a logical progression (non sequitur) or a response that implies that someone said something they didn't (strawman) is not acceptable. As soon as someone uses a logical fallacy any momentum towards the truth tends to disappear.
Unfortunately very few people are familiar with logical fallacies and sound argument. It isn't taught in schools, we have to take the time to educate ourselves.
To anyone that thinks that I have a superiority complex or I think I'm smarter than I am: That's your problem, not mine. If logical fallacies are avoided in a discussion then individual differences in intelligence and knowledge don't disrupt or create any problem. Anyone that doesn't have a valid response avoids writing one.
Quite a few people here are not very well and want further info or just want to send messages of support between each other. That must be respected and nobody should be dismissed or ridiculed for that. Likewise some are here to further our understanding of this subject and to further refine what we are doing through discussion, this discussion must be respected too, responses that do not involve sound reasoning are not acceptable.
Quote from Jiří on June 20, 2020, 1:02 am@samuli Ok so you are not "vegan" but you follow "vegan diet" aka you don't eat animals.. So you are "starchivore" that means your god father is "starch solution" Dr.Mcdougall well he is 73 but looks like he is 93 even when he eats "the best diet for humans".. He is aging so fast it is not even funny. No wonder why. The body has hard time rebuild connective tissues, muscles etc.. with potatoes, rice, legumes etc..
@samuli Ok so you are not "vegan" but you follow "vegan diet" aka you don't eat animals.. So you are "starchivore" that means your god father is "starch solution" Dr.Mcdougall well he is 73 but looks like he is 93 even when he eats "the best diet for humans".. He is aging so fast it is not even funny. No wonder why. The body has hard time rebuild connective tissues, muscles etc.. with potatoes, rice, legumes etc..
Quote from Sam on June 20, 2020, 1:37 amJiri, just stop. I really don't feel the need to explain to you things. I don't care what you do, so continue to eat the way you eat if it's working for you, I really don't care. How would I benefit if you turned to vegan or carnivore or whatever? I'm not in business of selling supplements, food, laboratory tests or nothing. I'm just here to enjoy the show and see what happens with your vitamin A detox thing.
I don't even believe in this VA toxicity thing. Just explain this for instance. I have had oily skin since I was 14 years old and the only time when my oily skin goes away 100% is when I took isotretinoin. Isotretinoin cures my oily skin in three days with a small dosage of 10mg twice a week. 100% cured and I don't get this effect with megadosing beta carotene. So if all vitamin a including beta caretene turns to tretinoin in body why I don't get that oily skin cure with carotene?
Jiri, just stop. I really don't feel the need to explain to you things. I don't care what you do, so continue to eat the way you eat if it's working for you, I really don't care. How would I benefit if you turned to vegan or carnivore or whatever? I'm not in business of selling supplements, food, laboratory tests or nothing. I'm just here to enjoy the show and see what happens with your vitamin A detox thing.
I don't even believe in this VA toxicity thing. Just explain this for instance. I have had oily skin since I was 14 years old and the only time when my oily skin goes away 100% is when I took isotretinoin. Isotretinoin cures my oily skin in three days with a small dosage of 10mg twice a week. 100% cured and I don't get this effect with megadosing beta carotene. So if all vitamin a including beta caretene turns to tretinoin in body why I don't get that oily skin cure with carotene?
Quote from Jiří on June 20, 2020, 1:47 am@samuli I am sure that Tim will explain you in detail why high amounts of beta carotene doesn't work like accutane. All I can say is that taking accutane will create drug like effect in the body that will basically damage your skin. The function of the skin. That's why people have issues with dry skin, dry mucous membranes. Accutane is or was used in cancer treatment do kill stem cells.. I think accutane damages mainly stem cells in the skin and mucous membranes + it acts as 5a reductase inhibitor. I think it changes receptor sensitivity or something. That's why some people crash with "post accutane syndrome" for 10-20 years after taking accutane. Even small amounts..
@samuli I am sure that Tim will explain you in detail why high amounts of beta carotene doesn't work like accutane. All I can say is that taking accutane will create drug like effect in the body that will basically damage your skin. The function of the skin. That's why people have issues with dry skin, dry mucous membranes. Accutane is or was used in cancer treatment do kill stem cells.. I think accutane damages mainly stem cells in the skin and mucous membranes + it acts as 5a reductase inhibitor. I think it changes receptor sensitivity or something. That's why some people crash with "post accutane syndrome" for 10-20 years after taking accutane. Even small amounts..
Quote from Sam on June 20, 2020, 1:56 amQuote from Jiří on June 20, 2020, 1:47 am@samuli I am sure that Tim will explain you in detail why high amounts of beta carotene doesn't work like accutane. All I can say is that taking accutane will create drug like effect in the body that will basically damage your skin. The function of the skin. That's why people have issues with dry skin, dry mucous membranes. Accutane is or was used in cancer treatment do kill stem cells.. I think accutane damages mainly stem cells in the skin and mucous membranes + it acts as 5a reductase inhibitor. I think it changes receptor sensitivity or something. That's why some people crash with "post accutane syndrome" for 10-20 years after taking accutane. Even small amounts..
Yes, isotretinoin is pure poison, there's no question about that. And megadosing beta carotene is not good, but Garret Smith said that all carotenes converts to tretinoin in body and that is something that makes me ridicule this whole thing. Like I said in some other thread that I got cherry angiomas all the time when I was taking isotretinoin, but I haven't got cherry angiomas when I was megadosing fish liver oil vitamin A or beta carotene. Plus fish liver oil vitamin A didn't reduce my oily skin not even 1%, no matter how much I was megadosing. So clearly there is a major difference with isotretioin vs preformed a and provitamin a.
Quote from Jiří on June 20, 2020, 1:47 am@samuli I am sure that Tim will explain you in detail why high amounts of beta carotene doesn't work like accutane. All I can say is that taking accutane will create drug like effect in the body that will basically damage your skin. The function of the skin. That's why people have issues with dry skin, dry mucous membranes. Accutane is or was used in cancer treatment do kill stem cells.. I think accutane damages mainly stem cells in the skin and mucous membranes + it acts as 5a reductase inhibitor. I think it changes receptor sensitivity or something. That's why some people crash with "post accutane syndrome" for 10-20 years after taking accutane. Even small amounts..
Yes, isotretinoin is pure poison, there's no question about that. And megadosing beta carotene is not good, but Garret Smith said that all carotenes converts to tretinoin in body and that is something that makes me ridicule this whole thing. Like I said in some other thread that I got cherry angiomas all the time when I was taking isotretinoin, but I haven't got cherry angiomas when I was megadosing fish liver oil vitamin A or beta carotene. Plus fish liver oil vitamin A didn't reduce my oily skin not even 1%, no matter how much I was megadosing. So clearly there is a major difference with isotretioin vs preformed a and provitamin a.