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Carnivore diet (all animal foods)
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Ronnie on May 30, 2019, 9:56 am
There is a lot of confirmation and survivorship bias on this diet. I definetly need carbs and I believe they are absolutely necessary for well functioning kidney and liver.
This is from Garrett Smith facebook:
Restricting carbs or Calories is stress on the body. Low-carb diets, in order to create glucose for the body to run on, basically have to use stress hormones (cortisol and adrenaline, among others) to make sugars out of fats and proteins. Stressors, in general (dietary included), depletes magnesium. High fats in the diet may deplete magnesium further.
As magnesium stores get more and more depleted, the calcium-to-magnesium ratio on hair mineral analysis gets worse and worse, which means that the body's blood-sugar-control-ability gets worse as well. This is the root of why the literature shows long-term low-carbing results in worsening carbohydrate sensitivity, tolerance, and diabetes.
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Ronnie on May 30, 2019, 9:56 am
There is a lot of confirmation and survivorship bias on this diet. I definetly need carbs and I believe they are absolutely necessary for well functioning kidney and liver.
This is from Garrett Smith facebook:
Restricting carbs or Calories is stress on the body. Low-carb diets, in order to create glucose for the body to run on, basically have to use stress hormones (cortisol and adrenaline, among others) to make sugars out of fats and proteins. Stressors, in general (dietary included), depletes magnesium. High fats in the diet may deplete magnesium further.
As magnesium stores get more and more depleted, the calcium-to-magnesium ratio on hair mineral analysis gets worse and worse, which means that the body's blood-sugar-control-ability gets worse as well. This is the root of why the literature shows long-term low-carbing results in worsening carbohydrate sensitivity, tolerance, and diabetes.
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Bella on June 7, 2019, 9:57 am
I read on Mikhaila Peterson’s Instagram yesterday that she is eating 1.5 pounds of liver per week (when she feels like it)! I believe that’s an average of 30,000 IU of VA per day if my math is correct.
I just figured I’d mention that here since it seems the common assumption (or what I thought anyway) is that she has been eating a low A diet of steak and water only.
I do wonder if it’s a recent addition because she didn’t mention how long she had been including liver in her diet.
I read on Mikhaila Peterson’s Instagram yesterday that she is eating 1.5 pounds of liver per week (when she feels like it)! I believe that’s an average of 30,000 IU of VA per day if my math is correct.
I just figured I’d mention that here since it seems the common assumption (or what I thought anyway) is that she has been eating a low A diet of steak and water only.
I do wonder if it’s a recent addition because she didn’t mention how long she had been including liver in her diet.
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Orion on June 7, 2019, 10:30 am
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Bella on June 7, 2019, 9:57 am
I read on Mikhaila Peterson’s Instagram yesterday that she is eating 1.5 pounds of liver per week (when she feels like it)! I believe that’s an average of 30,000 IU of VA per day if my math is correct.
I just figured I’d mention that here since it seems the common assumption (or what I thought anyway) is that she has been eating a low A diet of steak and water only.
I do wonder if it’s a recent addition because she didn’t mention how long she had been including liver in her diet.
Interesting, not familiar with her, but looked at the recent photos and she looks healthy, wonder how long til the liver consumption backfires everything... that is a hefty amount!
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Bella on June 7, 2019, 9:57 am
I read on Mikhaila Peterson’s Instagram yesterday that she is eating 1.5 pounds of liver per week (when she feels like it)! I believe that’s an average of 30,000 IU of VA per day if my math is correct.
I just figured I’d mention that here since it seems the common assumption (or what I thought anyway) is that she has been eating a low A diet of steak and water only.
I do wonder if it’s a recent addition because she didn’t mention how long she had been including liver in her diet.
Interesting, not familiar with her, but looked at the recent photos and she looks healthy, wonder how long til the liver consumption backfires everything... that is a hefty amount!
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Bella on June 7, 2019, 10:58 am
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Orion on June 7, 2019, 10:30 am
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Bella on June 7, 2019, 9:57 am
I read on Mikhaila Peterson’s Instagram yesterday that she is eating 1.5 pounds of liver per week (when she feels like it)! I believe that’s an average of 30,000 IU of VA per day if my math is correct.
I just figured I’d mention that here since it seems the common assumption (or what I thought anyway) is that she has been eating a low A diet of steak and water only.
I do wonder if it’s a recent addition because she didn’t mention how long she had been including liver in her diet.
Interesting, not familiar with her, but looked at the recent photos and she looks healthy, wonder how long til the liver consumption backfires everything... that is a hefty amount!
She’s the daughter of psychologist Jordan Peterson of recent YouTube fame who claims she cured multiple auto immune diseases on a steak and water diet.
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Orion on June 7, 2019, 10:30 am
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Bella on June 7, 2019, 9:57 am
I read on Mikhaila Peterson’s Instagram yesterday that she is eating 1.5 pounds of liver per week (when she feels like it)! I believe that’s an average of 30,000 IU of VA per day if my math is correct.
I just figured I’d mention that here since it seems the common assumption (or what I thought anyway) is that she has been eating a low A diet of steak and water only.
I do wonder if it’s a recent addition because she didn’t mention how long she had been including liver in her diet.
Interesting, not familiar with her, but looked at the recent photos and she looks healthy, wonder how long til the liver consumption backfires everything... that is a hefty amount!
She’s the daughter of psychologist Jordan Peterson of recent YouTube fame who claims she cured multiple auto immune diseases on a steak and water diet.
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Bella on June 7, 2019, 10:58 am
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Orion on June 7, 2019, 10:30 am
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Bella on June 7, 2019, 9:57 am
I read on Mikhaila Peterson’s Instagram yesterday that she is eating 1.5 pounds of liver per week (when she feels like it)! I believe that’s an average of 30,000 IU of VA per day if my math is correct.
I just figured I’d mention that here since it seems the common assumption (or what I thought anyway) is that she has been eating a low A diet of steak and water only.
I do wonder if it’s a recent addition because she didn’t mention how long she had been including liver in her diet.
Interesting, not familiar with her, but looked at the recent photos and she looks healthy, wonder how long til the liver consumption backfires everything... that is a hefty amount!
She’s the daughter of psychologist Jordan Peterson of recent YouTube fame who claims she cured multiple auto immune diseases on a steak and water diet.
Sounds like another +1 for zero/low VA, but long term zero carb is problematic.
Dr. Smith has a good take on this:
"Restricting carbs or Calories is stress on the body. Low-carb diets, in order to create glucose for the body to run on, basically have to use stress hormones (cortisol and adrenaline, among others) to make sugars out of fats and proteins. Stressors, in general (dietary included), depletes magnesium. High fats in the diet may deplete magnesium further.
As magnesium stores get more and more depleted, the calcium-to-magnesium ratio on hair mineral analysis gets worse and worse, which means that the body's blood-sugar-control-ability gets worse as well. This is the root of why the literature shows long-term low-carbing results in worsening carbohydrate sensitivity, tolerance, and diabetes."
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Bella on June 7, 2019, 10:58 am
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Orion on June 7, 2019, 10:30 am
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Bella on June 7, 2019, 9:57 am
I read on Mikhaila Peterson’s Instagram yesterday that she is eating 1.5 pounds of liver per week (when she feels like it)! I believe that’s an average of 30,000 IU of VA per day if my math is correct.
I just figured I’d mention that here since it seems the common assumption (or what I thought anyway) is that she has been eating a low A diet of steak and water only.
I do wonder if it’s a recent addition because she didn’t mention how long she had been including liver in her diet.
Interesting, not familiar with her, but looked at the recent photos and she looks healthy, wonder how long til the liver consumption backfires everything... that is a hefty amount!
She’s the daughter of psychologist Jordan Peterson of recent YouTube fame who claims she cured multiple auto immune diseases on a steak and water diet.
Sounds like another +1 for zero/low VA, but long term zero carb is problematic.
Dr. Smith has a good take on this:
"Restricting carbs or Calories is stress on the body. Low-carb diets, in order to create glucose for the body to run on, basically have to use stress hormones (cortisol and adrenaline, among others) to make sugars out of fats and proteins. Stressors, in general (dietary included), depletes magnesium. High fats in the diet may deplete magnesium further.
As magnesium stores get more and more depleted, the calcium-to-magnesium ratio on hair mineral analysis gets worse and worse, which means that the body's blood-sugar-control-ability gets worse as well. This is the root of why the literature shows long-term low-carbing results in worsening carbohydrate sensitivity, tolerance, and diabetes."
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Bella on June 7, 2019, 3:17 pm
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Orion on June 7, 2019, 12:20 pm
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Bella on June 7, 2019, 10:58 am
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Bella on June 7, 2019, 9:57 am
I read on Mikhaila Peterson’s Instagram yesterday that she is eating 1.5 pounds of liver per week (when she feels like it)! I believe that’s an average of 30,000 IU of VA per day if my math is correct.
I just figured I’d mention that here since it seems the common assumption (or what I thought anyway) is that she has been eating a low A diet of steak and water only.
I do wonder if it’s a recent addition because she didn’t mention how long she had been including liver in her diet.
Interesting, not familiar with her, but looked at the recent photos and she looks healthy, wonder how long til the liver consumption backfires everything... that is a hefty amount!
She’s the daughter of psychologist Jordan Peterson of recent YouTube fame who claims she cured multiple auto immune diseases on a steak and water diet.
Sounds like another +1 for zero/low VA, but long term zero carb is problematic.
Dr. Smith has a good take on this:
"Restricting carbs or Calories is stress on the body. Low-carb diets, in order to create glucose for the body to run on, basically have to use stress hormones (cortisol and adrenaline, among others) to make sugars out of fats and proteins. Stressors, in general (dietary included), depletes magnesium. High fats in the diet may deplete magnesium further.
As magnesium stores get more and more depleted, the calcium-to-magnesium ratio on hair mineral analysis gets worse and worse, which means that the body's blood-sugar-control-ability gets worse as well. This is the root of why the literature shows long-term low-carbing results in worsening carbohydrate sensitivity, tolerance, and diabetes."
Yeah, the carnivore diet really seemed to help her and her father but this is the first I’ve heard about the addition of liver. It’s really too bad. Each animal only has one liver so how much liver was primitive man really getting anyway? I can’t imagine that much on a regular basis but who knows! It’s all speculation. I hate to see people who have come so far end up with more problems from eating a bunch of liver.
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Orion on June 7, 2019, 12:20 pm
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Bella on June 7, 2019, 10:58 am
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Orion on June 7, 2019, 10:30 am
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Bella on June 7, 2019, 9:57 am
I read on Mikhaila Peterson’s Instagram yesterday that she is eating 1.5 pounds of liver per week (when she feels like it)! I believe that’s an average of 30,000 IU of VA per day if my math is correct.
I just figured I’d mention that here since it seems the common assumption (or what I thought anyway) is that she has been eating a low A diet of steak and water only.
I do wonder if it’s a recent addition because she didn’t mention how long she had been including liver in her diet.
Interesting, not familiar with her, but looked at the recent photos and she looks healthy, wonder how long til the liver consumption backfires everything... that is a hefty amount!
She’s the daughter of psychologist Jordan Peterson of recent YouTube fame who claims she cured multiple auto immune diseases on a steak and water diet.
Sounds like another +1 for zero/low VA, but long term zero carb is problematic.
Dr. Smith has a good take on this:
"Restricting carbs or Calories is stress on the body. Low-carb diets, in order to create glucose for the body to run on, basically have to use stress hormones (cortisol and adrenaline, among others) to make sugars out of fats and proteins. Stressors, in general (dietary included), depletes magnesium. High fats in the diet may deplete magnesium further.
As magnesium stores get more and more depleted, the calcium-to-magnesium ratio on hair mineral analysis gets worse and worse, which means that the body's blood-sugar-control-ability gets worse as well. This is the root of why the literature shows long-term low-carbing results in worsening carbohydrate sensitivity, tolerance, and diabetes."
Yeah, the carnivore diet really seemed to help her and her father but this is the first I’ve heard about the addition of liver. It’s really too bad. Each animal only has one liver so how much liver was primitive man really getting anyway? I can’t imagine that much on a regular basis but who knows! It’s all speculation. I hate to see people who have come so far end up with more problems from eating a bunch of liver.
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Liz on June 7, 2019, 10:38 pm
If and when she run into problems from the liver, it will be interesting to see how it will be explained by the carnivore crowd, we know it is the A of course...
Who the h*ll started this whole "liver is healthy eat lots of it" anyway? Or maybe it stems from the old cod liver oil scam? I personally first heard about liver = healthy when the LCHF movement became popular in my country 10 years ago or so. "liver is filled with all you need, you should eat it every week" they said.
If and when she run into problems from the liver, it will be interesting to see how it will be explained by the carnivore crowd, we know it is the A of course...
Who the h*ll started this whole "liver is healthy eat lots of it" anyway? Or maybe it stems from the old cod liver oil scam? I personally first heard about liver = healthy when the LCHF movement became popular in my country 10 years ago or so. "liver is filled with all you need, you should eat it every week" they said.
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tim on June 7, 2019, 11:05 pm
1.5 lbs of beef liver gives 33782 mcg RAE so she would be consuming about 4826 mcg RAE per day. The RDA for her is 700 mcg RAE so she will be consuming almost 7x the RDA if she keeps that up... :-/
1.5 lbs of beef liver gives 33782 mcg RAE so she would be consuming about 4826 mcg RAE per day. The RDA for her is 700 mcg RAE so she will be consuming almost 7x the RDA if she keeps that up... :-/
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tim on June 7, 2019, 11:05 pm
1.5 lbs of beef liver gives 33782 mcg RAE so she would be consuming about 4826 mcg RAE per day. The RDA for her is 700 mcg RAE so she will be consuming almost 7x the RDA if she keeps that up... :-/
Sounds like a recipe for osteoporosis among other things.
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tim on June 7, 2019, 11:05 pm
1.5 lbs of beef liver gives 33782 mcg RAE so she would be consuming about 4826 mcg RAE per day. The RDA for her is 700 mcg RAE so she will be consuming almost 7x the RDA if she keeps that up... :-/
Sounds like a recipe for osteoporosis among other things.
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lil chick on June 9, 2019, 1:02 pm
I wonder how far our tastes can be trusted. I've NEVER liked beef liver.
I once was told that a friend's cat SOMETIMES ate the liver of mice and other times... didn't
I wonder how far our tastes can be trusted. I've NEVER liked beef liver.
I once was told that a friend's cat SOMETIMES ate the liver of mice and other times... didn't
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