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Eggs as part of Vitamin A reduction
Quote from Andrew B on December 7, 2022, 12:00 pmOn the Vitamin A reduction diet I've been doing 3-4 eggs a day for 8 months now. I do think 1-2 eggs a day throughout the 3 year reduction has been a help rather than a hindrance. An egg has 5-7% of the RDA for Vitamin A. Less than butter at 11% RDA for one tablespoon. Butter didn't entirely agree with me until now perhaps because of the fat content. So it's easy to see why I gravitated to the eggs with less vitamin A, less fat, more protein, more choline, selenium, biotin, folate and zinc. I also cook with eggs in fishcakes, pancakes, apple sponges and fryups. Easy to eat and cheaper than buying beef which I couldn't eat enough of. I've also been using organic spelt flour, fermented beetroot juice and quinoa which supply betaine for the last 8 months.Eating eggs made me feel fuller and the cravings for beef went away. My digestion has become much more resilient to previous food reactions. Digestion has continually improved with easier bowel movements and less rumbling stomach. I feel my mental health has been much better as I deal with living in a poorly soundproofed building and noises from the flat below. My eczema and itching has reduced on the upper body and now is mainly on the lower legs as the detox continues strongly with some bile getting into the blood. Parasympathetic activity has improved with greater relaxation and an orthostatic problem has now resolved. My hair at the back of my neck has thickened up where it had shown signs of thinning.Fat digestion has now improved somewhere about 7-8 month mark. I can digest peanuts, fatty bacon slice, butter, cheese, cashews and dark chocolate now completely. The detox got even stronger at times and I looked to slow it down with less beef, less protein, less fat and increased the carbohydrates like red potatoes, parsnips, fruit and cauliflower. The eczema will hopefully go in the next few months. Difficult to tell whether I need 4 eggs a day in winter as I eat less snacks and desserts in winter. I tend to eat at least one egg with each meal and that serves to reduce the amount leaking into my blood. At 58 replenishing choline after a lifetime of gluten problems has been a complete game changer. The small amount of vitamin A in eggs makes little difference to the strength of the detox. Choline is far more powerful especially the higher amount in eggs. I havent tried beef hearts or fish eggs yet and they have near equivalent levels per 100 grams.
@lee One tablespoon of butter has more retinol than one egg yolk (about 11% RDA to 7%). So unlikely the retinol. It could be lutein as there is a small amount in egg yolks. It could be the whites as @jiri said. It might also be worth trying cod roe or other fish eggs. Another option is beef hearts. Other organs might be high in choline (obviously liver is too high in Vit A) but I havent checked them all yet. Also consider some betaine might save some of your choline being converted. The obvious choices would be a tablespoon of quinoa each day or 50 grams of wheat/spelt or 100 grams of fermented beetroot juice as this is the season. I realise none of the latter might fit your diet but might be a short term measure while you improve liver and hopefully can eat eggs again.
Quote from Andrew B on December 8, 2022, 3:58 am@lee One tablespoon of butter has more retinol than one egg yolk (about 11% RDA to 7%). So unlikely the retinol. It could be lutein as there is a small amount in egg yolks. It could be the whites as @jiri said. It might also be worth trying cod roe or other fish eggs. Another option is beef hearts. Other organs might be high in choline (obviously liver is too high in Vit A) but I havent checked them all yet. Also consider some betaine might save some of your choline being converted. The obvious choices would be a tablespoon of quinoa each day or 50 grams of wheat/spelt or 100 grams of fermented beetroot juice as this is the season. I realise none of the latter might fit your diet but might be a short term measure while you improve liver and hopefully can eat eggs again.
Thanks Andrew, I really appreciate you taking the time to provide this.
So fish eggs are not too high in retinol to be of concern? I will try to get beef hearts. I was regularly eating bone marrow but not sure of it's choline content.
I like the ketosis aspect of my diet and like to avoid any potential plant toxins so i'm sticking with that for now.
Eggs is what i'd really like to introduce. I'm very intrigued about just trying egg yolks now but it's such a heavy price to pay if it goes wrong. Will likely be a week of fatigue and headaches in store. Only one way to find out though.
Is there anything else I should be doing to proactively speed up the detox. I know Dr Garrett Smith has alluded to this being possible but every time I think about signing up for a consultation with him he'll say something that doesn't make sense to me.
He's very active on twitter at the moment.
Thanks again, I do appreciate it.
@lee Cod roe have a similar level of Vitamin A (about 6% of RDA) and lutein as eggs. The detox is being done by choline and betaine so there is no need to push it with much else except a reasonable protein level. A 100 mgs of choline may eliminate 3,000 IUs of vit A at a guess with reasonable liver health so 300 IUs is not significant in eggs or fish roe. The priority I now realise with hindsight is to fix the choline levels and reduce leakiness in the whole system before pushing detox to any extent. I should have increased eggs to 4 a day from year 1 when my sulphur/sulphite problems got resolved. Raw milk again in small amounts is a better way to fix leakiness than lactoferrin alone.