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Influence of food on ADH and ALDH activity

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Quote from Janelle525 on January 1, 2024, 3:53 pm
Quote from Jiří on January 1, 2024, 2:20 pm

@janelle525 I was talking about traditional Japan. So like 50+ years ago not now. Today the world is globalized and everybody eats the same garbage.. My grandma was also pretty fit in her 90s and her intake of iodine also wasn't that high. But she also did not took birth control pills and wasn't exposed to estrogen like chemicals from plastic and all kinds of things. You are talking about Ray Peat. Go on Ray Peat forum and read some topic about iodine. Plenty of good info. Recently I was reading there about a guy who gave his wife iodine and it cured her breast cancer. How I know that Japan females had no issues with estrogen dominance? Yeah it is mostly about body fat and fat distribution. You can see on a female if she has really good or really bad hormonal profile. It is obvious. Same for males. When you see male with pear like shape body, with gynecomastia, big ass and hips and small shoulders, skinny jello like arms without any muscle definition you know 100% this male doesn't have ideal DHT, estrogen levels.. I would say more than 50% of males today are like this. It is just horrible how degenerate people today are if they are eating and doing mainstream stuff... 

My Grandma was very large in the bosom and belly still no cancer, but she did have a heart blockage 10 yrs ago. I'm not overweight and I still have had issues with estrogen clogging up my liver. I'd say Japan is going downhill due to adopting more western style diet but also because they refuse to have children. They still do probably eat way more seafood than Americans. Yes I've read some good stories on iodine, and I'm not against it altogether, I'd just like to see more study on it before adopting it as a cancer cure. There are many so called cancer cures out there that I wouldn't try for myself or loved ones. Heck we radiate and chemically kill cancers!! Many things kill cancer cells including retinoic acid, but does it mean it's good for general use? When something makes me feel toxic I stop doing it, so if I took iodine and it made me feel toxic I wouldn't keep doing it. 

The lack of stomach acid greatly increases acetaldehyde in the body. You have to eat foods rich in cysteine, cysteine ​​causes that acetaldehyde to be converted into a form that the body can excrete. A cysteine ​​supplement would be useful, eat a lot of meat and foods that increase ADL, carbonated water, pears, lemon. , asparagus and cucumber. Do that and you will improve a lot
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@el that's why I keep eating whey protein. So I have constant supply of all essential amino acids even if my digestion of meat is bad. I don't believe that there is hardly any vit A in whey where is no casein or dairy fat... But I don't think that I have issues with digesting meat because when I eat for example 250g of ground beef or chicken I feel like I just ate nothing. If my meat digestion would be bad I would feel it for hours and hours in my stomach..

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Quote from Jiří on January 1, 2024, 10:58 pm

@el that's why I keep eating whey protein. So I have constant supply of all essential amino acids even if my digestion of meat is bad. I don't believe that there is hardly any vit A in whey where is no casein or dairy fat... But I don't think that I have issues with digesting meat because when I eat for example 250g of ground beef or chicken I feel like I just ate nothing. If my meat digestion would be bad I would feel it for hours and hours in my stomach..

My belly is exactly the same! I can eat a pound of meat and feel perfect, no issues digesting it at all. Sometimes I think my belly could digest stones! I also never got a parasite problem even if I ate lots of raw meat and fish/seafood. I am sure I have sufficient acid in my stomach.

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Quote from Inger on January 2, 2024, 3:17 am
Quote from Jiří on January 1, 2024, 10:58 pm

@el that's why I keep eating whey protein. So I have constant supply of all essential amino acids even if my digestion of meat is bad. I don't believe that there is hardly any vit A in whey where is no casein or dairy fat... But I don't think that I have issues with digesting meat because when I eat for example 250g of ground beef or chicken I feel like I just ate nothing. If my meat digestion would be bad I would feel it for hours and hours in my stomach..

My belly is exactly the same! I can eat a pound of meat and feel perfect, no issues digesting it at all. Sometimes I think my belly could digest stones! I also never got a parasite problem even if I ate lots of raw meat and fish/seafood. I am sure I have sufficient acid in my stomach.

Meat has cysteine. Cysteine ​​converts aceltielhyde into a non-toxic product for the body. Meat increases stomach acid. Meat suits most people. because it increases stomach acid.
 
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Quote from Jiří on January 1, 2024, 10:58 pm

@el that's why I keep eating whey protein. So I have constant supply of all essential amino acids even if my digestion of meat is bad. I don't believe that there is hardly any vit A in whey where is no casein or dairy fat... But I don't think that I have issues with digesting meat because when I eat for example 250g of ground beef or chicken I feel like I just ate nothing. If my meat digestion would be bad I would feel it for hours and hours in my stomach..

Lack of bile is a problem for bacteria that produce acetyladehyde to accumulate. Acetyladehyde is produced by intestinal bacteria. That is why the carnivore diet works because it is high in cysteine ​​and acetyladehyde, converted into a non-toxic form. fiber is not essential. Soluble fiber creates more acetyladehyde. The good one is insoluble fiber,
 
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The cure for all diseases is to eat foods high in cysteine, and foods that greatly increase aldh and lower adh. adh increases acetylhadeide. every disease in the body a lot of acetyladeid accumulated. Beans lower adh, but also adlh. I don't think it's the solution
 
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Yesterday I laid out some food to empty the fridge, gosh there was a little bit of everything since we are coming off the holidays.  There were so many foods, from potatoes and lamb, salad with toasted sesame oil dressing,  and even caviar.  The thing that made my taste buds the most happy were apple slices tossed in lemon.   I'm going to buy some pears and toss those in lemon too.   After a week of party food it's nice to eat something very light and fresh.  

During the Xmas partying we had a pickle tray (cucumbers) in the fridge, and gosh the scent of them was even more compelling than prime rib.   (I still ate the prime rib though!  I'm not crazy!)

In the same way, are El's foods a nice accompaniment to "prison food"?

This list of El's seems to me to be what eastern ideas might call "cooling"?    I've often wondered if VA toxicity is what they call "rising heat" in Eastern modalities.    

Think of how lemons and limes helped the sailors on their problematic long-voyage diets.

I visited a friend with dementia  in the nursing home yesterday and noticed her lunch tray had a full meal on it.  Un-bothered by memories of what she should and should not eat...she had only eaten the chopped fruit, which seemed to include pear.

I have been experimenting with a daily drink of selzer  and I do think it stirs things up, but I am going to continue.   It's fun.  Does this perhaps explain why some people drink so very much soda and beer too, for that matter?   Do they crave the bubbles?

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Quote from El on January 2, 2024, 4:47 am
The cure for all diseases is to eat foods high in cysteine, and foods that greatly increase aldh and lower adh. adh increases acetylhadeide. every disease in the body a lot of acetyladeid accumulated. Beans lower adh, but also adlh. I don't think it's the solution
 
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If beans didn't work at all Grant wouldn't have gotten his life back. Nor would the lady with Chrohn's (which by the way she just posted a good podcast for the ladies https://www.youregreat.com/blog/2023/12/22/karen-hurd-peri-menopause ).  If I started eating beans I would be in pain every 5 days on the toilet. I need to go about it a different way, but I acknowledge that they have worked for many people no matter what a study may say (I really hate studies that claim a food does one thing in the body for all people- one person's medicine may be another's poison). 

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Quote from El on January 2, 2024, 4:47 am
The cure for all diseases is to eat foods high in cysteine, and foods that greatly increase aldh and lower adh. adh increases acetylhadeide. every disease in the body a lot of acetyladeid accumulated. Beans lower adh, but also adlh. I don't think it's the solution
 

So how about nuts, do they increase ALDH/lower ADH?

I could easily eat a couple pears every day, I love pears, always did! But I see great benefits from including beans in my diet. I would guess, because i eat a lot of meat and onions too, the bans will not disturb the healing of my body, but carry out toxic bile and help healing. I really need the beans to heal my gallbladder because it was full of thick bile and probably stones and sludge I am so sure. Also my hormones are balancing with the beans.. I can feel it.

@el have you tried to eat your diet with meat and pears etc and also include a small amount of beans, if there is any negative or positive impact?

I am also wondering about fermented beans. I have eaten several spoonful of my home fermented beans every day the last weeks and I really like the taste.

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Garrett Smith responded to the pear thing: 

"There are good and bad issues with pears. They are high in pectin soluble fiber, which is good. A big issue is that as pears ripen, they make a decent amount of formaldehyde. This is why overly ripe pears often bother people’s digestion. Asian pears (the ones you are talking about) seem to make even more formaldehyde than others. This is why the body speeds up ADH and ALDH, because there are more toxins present I would not purposely increase (overly ripe) pear intake to try to speed detox. Some people in my group tried doing this in the past, it didn’t end well and proved my point."

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