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Lactoferrin
Quote from Inger on December 28, 2022, 11:07 pmI did not have any bad symptoms from it really, at least not major ones. I did got that poisoned look in my face/eyes when I woke up in the morning and watched in the mirror...when I took 2 pills/day once. That did not feel right. I bet I got too much bile in my blood from that. So I take only 1 pill/day.
The lady in our health food store where i buy them, told me a customer has gotten rid of gout eating the lactoferrin, and others report cool stuff too, like getting rid of wanting so much alcohol. That happened to me too.
To me it feels like lactoferrin does something wonderful to the mood. Soothes it. Lactoferrin is now the only supplement I take.
I did not have any bad symptoms from it really, at least not major ones. I did got that poisoned look in my face/eyes when I woke up in the morning and watched in the mirror...when I took 2 pills/day once. That did not feel right. I bet I got too much bile in my blood from that. So I take only 1 pill/day.
The lady in our health food store where i buy them, told me a customer has gotten rid of gout eating the lactoferrin, and others report cool stuff too, like getting rid of wanting so much alcohol. That happened to me too.
To me it feels like lactoferrin does something wonderful to the mood. Soothes it. Lactoferrin is now the only supplement I take.
Quote from Chris on December 29, 2022, 10:18 amQuote from Inger on December 28, 2022, 11:07 pmI did not have any bad symptoms from it really, at least not major ones. I did got that poisoned look in my face/eyes when I woke up in the morning and watched in the mirror...when I took 2 pills/day once. That did not feel right. I bet I got too much bile in my blood from that. So I take only 1 pill/day.
The lady in our health food store where i buy them, told me a customer has gotten rid of gout eating the lactoferrin, and others report cool stuff too, like getting rid of wanting so much alcohol. That happened to me too.
To me it feels like lactoferrin does something wonderful to the mood. Soothes it. Lactoferrin is now the only supplement I take.
Interesting. I can't imagine trying 2 pills, I'm honestly still only using a 1/6th of a capsule still and even that affects me. I guess Dr. Smith said how strongly you react to it is just an indication for how toxic you are :-/
Quote from Inger on December 28, 2022, 11:07 pmI did not have any bad symptoms from it really, at least not major ones. I did got that poisoned look in my face/eyes when I woke up in the morning and watched in the mirror...when I took 2 pills/day once. That did not feel right. I bet I got too much bile in my blood from that. So I take only 1 pill/day.
The lady in our health food store where i buy them, told me a customer has gotten rid of gout eating the lactoferrin, and others report cool stuff too, like getting rid of wanting so much alcohol. That happened to me too.
To me it feels like lactoferrin does something wonderful to the mood. Soothes it. Lactoferrin is now the only supplement I take.
Interesting. I can't imagine trying 2 pills, I'm honestly still only using a 1/6th of a capsule still and even that affects me. I guess Dr. Smith said how strongly you react to it is just an indication for how toxic you are :-/
Quote from Inger on December 29, 2022, 10:38 amoh yes that might be.. :/.. Did you take accutane? I never took that. That must be the worst way to poison oneself with vitamin A :/
oh yes that might be.. :/.. Did you take accutane? I never took that. That must be the worst way to poison oneself with vitamin A :/
Quote from Chris on December 29, 2022, 10:41 amQuote from Inger on December 29, 2022, 10:38 amoh yes that might be.. :/.. Did you take accutane? I never took that. That must be the worst way to poison oneself with vitamin A :/
I think I had taken it when I was 12 or 13. I have this memory of having acne and my parents putting me on some new medicine for it, I'm pretty sure it was accutane looking back, this would have been around 1982 when it was first introduced. I've wondered if it's why I had such terrible anxiety and fear as a teenager. I began developing those problems around the time I would have taken it. But then of course, I ate a lot of high vitA foods throughout the course of my life including bouts of trying chicken and beef liver and high carotenoid fruits (which gave me joint pain and headaches). I didn't understand at the time why that happened. What put me over the edge back in 2020 was when I tried taking cayenne pepper pills for several weeks.
Quote from Inger on December 29, 2022, 10:38 amoh yes that might be.. :/.. Did you take accutane? I never took that. That must be the worst way to poison oneself with vitamin A :/
I think I had taken it when I was 12 or 13. I have this memory of having acne and my parents putting me on some new medicine for it, I'm pretty sure it was accutane looking back, this would have been around 1982 when it was first introduced. I've wondered if it's why I had such terrible anxiety and fear as a teenager. I began developing those problems around the time I would have taken it. But then of course, I ate a lot of high vitA foods throughout the course of my life including bouts of trying chicken and beef liver and high carotenoid fruits (which gave me joint pain and headaches). I didn't understand at the time why that happened. What put me over the edge back in 2020 was when I tried taking cayenne pepper pills for several weeks.
Quote from Inger on December 29, 2022, 11:16 amohh cayenne pepper pills.. :/ I did a lot of curcumin/turmeric because i thought it was so healthy. I hated how it colored everything. I also had a habit of drinking a lot of fresh juiced carrot juice.
Uhh. So sad we just tried to be so healthy and nothing worked so in the end I landed on carnivore and even there i made mmistakes because I had lots of organs as I though that was so healthy.. lol
But the older we get the wiser we get 😉 hopefully!
ohh cayenne pepper pills.. :/ I did a lot of curcumin/turmeric because i thought it was so healthy. I hated how it colored everything. I also had a habit of drinking a lot of fresh juiced carrot juice.
Uhh. So sad we just tried to be so healthy and nothing worked so in the end I landed on carnivore and even there i made mmistakes because I had lots of organs as I though that was so healthy.. lol
But the older we get the wiser we get 😉 hopefully!
Quote from Chris on December 29, 2022, 11:21 amQuote from Inger on December 29, 2022, 11:16 amohh cayenne pepper pills.. :/ I did a lot of curcumin/turmeric because i thought it was so healthy. I hated how it colored everything. I also had a habit of drinking a lot of fresh juiced carrot juice.
Uhh. So sad we just tried to be so healthy and nothing worked so in the end I landed on carnivore and even there i made mmistakes because I had lots of organs as I though that was so healthy.. lol
But the older we get the wiser we get
hopefully!
Yes indeed. It's fascinating on the carnivore Facebook groups how defensive people get about their organs, not realizing that their desire to be healthy with animal products they've embraced what amounts to a plant toxin. I tried cayenne pepper because I friend told me he took it and that it helped lower blood pressure. Part of my saga is that I had been put on testosterone replacement therapy about 2 years prior, and thanks to Dr. Smith I came to understand that it too was adding stress to my liver. But it also raised my blood pressure dangerously and the cayenne was an attempt to lower that. Ugh.
Quote from Inger on December 29, 2022, 11:16 amohh cayenne pepper pills.. :/ I did a lot of curcumin/turmeric because i thought it was so healthy. I hated how it colored everything. I also had a habit of drinking a lot of fresh juiced carrot juice.
Uhh. So sad we just tried to be so healthy and nothing worked so in the end I landed on carnivore and even there i made mmistakes because I had lots of organs as I though that was so healthy.. lol
But the older we get the wiser we get
hopefully!
Yes indeed. It's fascinating on the carnivore Facebook groups how defensive people get about their organs, not realizing that their desire to be healthy with animal products they've embraced what amounts to a plant toxin. I tried cayenne pepper because I friend told me he took it and that it helped lower blood pressure. Part of my saga is that I had been put on testosterone replacement therapy about 2 years prior, and thanks to Dr. Smith I came to understand that it too was adding stress to my liver. But it also raised my blood pressure dangerously and the cayenne was an attempt to lower that. Ugh.
Quote from Jiří on February 1, 2024, 11:48 pmWonder why Smith or his people no longer talk about lactoferrin? Not even one word about it even from Charlie on Ray Peat forum who basically transformed Ray peat Forum to low vit A diet forum hehe.. I also wonder when lactoferrin binds to iron what happens next with it. When it is floating in the blood with iron on the back can the body use that iron? Are there any research on that?
Wonder why Smith or his people no longer talk about lactoferrin? Not even one word about it even from Charlie on Ray Peat forum who basically transformed Ray peat Forum to low vit A diet forum hehe.. I also wonder when lactoferrin binds to iron what happens next with it. When it is floating in the blood with iron on the back can the body use that iron? Are there any research on that?
Quote from r on February 1, 2024, 11:59 pmQuote from Jiří on February 1, 2024, 11:48 pmWonder why Smith or his people no longer talk about lactoferrin? Not even one word about it even from Charlie on Ray Peat forum who basically transformed Ray peat Forum to low vit A diet forum hehe.. I also wonder when lactoferrin binds to iron what happens next with it. When it is floating in the blood with iron on the back can the body use that iron? Are there any research on that?
One thing I don't like about Smith is his typical American capitalistic mindset, i.e., 'Let's try to package things as gold and sell them.' After all, he is trying to turn Vitamin A detox into a business, and I understand he has to desperately make it look different from what we are doing here or even what Grant is doing. What all the experiments in diet, here and elsewhere, have revealed is that we can't rely on these nutritional studies. I have seen students in the university try to copy-paste anything from the internet to get their research papers published.
Well, if the same research paper that claimed Vitamin A as a necessary vitamin is what we are refuting here, meanwhile, Dr. Smith blatantly quotes headings from PubMed as if they are a word from God. Logically and rationally, we can juggle our way to prove anything with some Google searches and PubMed searches. For example, anyone with access to PubMed can prove a vegan diet is a cure for all diseases.
I'm starting to wonder if Smith doesn't think before 'claiming' facts from PubMed just to prove his point.
Moreover, over the past four years of following his research, he has changed his position on diets/supplements drastically. I mean, it's a good thing not to be stubborn about one belief, but if that's the case, then he shouldn't be so confident at the first instance of declaring something as a fact.
For example, once he was strictly against eggs, and he used to disparage consuming them. Now he is for the consumption of eggs, the same with supplements and various other foods.
A word of advice for Dr. Smith: it's okay to believe in something, but always add a caveat that you're not sure 100%
Quote from Jiří on February 1, 2024, 11:48 pmWonder why Smith or his people no longer talk about lactoferrin? Not even one word about it even from Charlie on Ray Peat forum who basically transformed Ray peat Forum to low vit A diet forum hehe.. I also wonder when lactoferrin binds to iron what happens next with it. When it is floating in the blood with iron on the back can the body use that iron? Are there any research on that?
One thing I don't like about Smith is his typical American capitalistic mindset, i.e., 'Let's try to package things as gold and sell them.' After all, he is trying to turn Vitamin A detox into a business, and I understand he has to desperately make it look different from what we are doing here or even what Grant is doing. What all the experiments in diet, here and elsewhere, have revealed is that we can't rely on these nutritional studies. I have seen students in the university try to copy-paste anything from the internet to get their research papers published.
Well, if the same research paper that claimed Vitamin A as a necessary vitamin is what we are refuting here, meanwhile, Dr. Smith blatantly quotes headings from PubMed as if they are a word from God. Logically and rationally, we can juggle our way to prove anything with some Google searches and PubMed searches. For example, anyone with access to PubMed can prove a vegan diet is a cure for all diseases.
I'm starting to wonder if Smith doesn't think before 'claiming' facts from PubMed just to prove his point.
Moreover, over the past four years of following his research, he has changed his position on diets/supplements drastically. I mean, it's a good thing not to be stubborn about one belief, but if that's the case, then he shouldn't be so confident at the first instance of declaring something as a fact.
For example, once he was strictly against eggs, and he used to disparage consuming them. Now he is for the consumption of eggs, the same with supplements and various other foods.
A word of advice for Dr. Smith: it's okay to believe in something, but always add a caveat that you're not sure 100%
Quote from Jiří on February 2, 2024, 12:08 am@r-2 Is really Smith pro eggs now? Didn't know that.. I feel like I am not doing good with eggs, but I take lecithin. It makes me poop. My poop now has decent shape, but still very light brown, yellow in color.. Maybe we could make new thread with poop photos with big warning in the name of it. So we can compare our poop lol. 😀
@r-2 Is really Smith pro eggs now? Didn't know that.. I feel like I am not doing good with eggs, but I take lecithin. It makes me poop. My poop now has decent shape, but still very light brown, yellow in color.. Maybe we could make new thread with poop photos with big warning in the name of it. So we can compare our poop lol. 😀