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I could totally see Grant on his bike riding to work in (?) stretchy (elasticized) biking outfit, sweating (of course) and then coming out with his whole-body eczema reaction.   Perhaps it was even dyed a dark or blue color.   It might explain why the reaction was so wide spread.

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I could see how reverting to clothing choices that reduce this allergy might be a good interim thing to do to both help the body refrain from over-reacting, and to make life less miserable while getting better.  Sort of on the idea of going gluten free for a while.

Another important idea is to avoid large exposures.  For instance, you might not want to be the one who removes your 10x12 rubber-backed, 30 year-old dilapidated rug pad.  You might want to hire someone and skip the hospital visit.

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Decided to rename this thread which was originally "latex/rubber allegory, VA connection?"

I also want to mention that I spoke with an expert on latex/dye allergy and was strongly warned not to ever take part in desensitization protocols for this, as it is quite dangerous.

 

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Hi @lil-chick sorry to hear about your latest skin flare up. You’ve been around these parts as long as I have I think, over 4 years, does it not strike you as weird that we are having new issues now? If it’s all about reducing vA we should not be developing novel issues now imo. I don’t think excessively high vA is an issue for me anymore but I think I’m now suffering from collateral damage from my choices. This may not be the same for you but I personally think we are missing something. Some missing factor/factors that are preventing the return to full health and for me at least causing declining health. The choline deficiency and declining cell membrane health theory is the front runner for me at the moment because multiple lines of evidence point there. The NAD deficiency theory (or poor recycling) is also up there and I’m very keen to hear AlexM’s ideas on this topic. I’m also very interested in porphyria and MSG. These various theories are not mutually exclusive. Something has shifted in me and not in a positive direction, even though vA toxicity symptoms have gone. 

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Quote from Jenny on February 9, 2023, 3:35 am

Hi @lil-chick sorry to hear about your latest skin flare up. You’ve been around these parts as long as I have I think, over 4 years, does it not strike you as weird that we are having new issues now? If it’s all about reducing vA we should not be developing novel issues now imo. I don’t think excessively high vA is an issue for me anymore but I think I’m now suffering from collateral damage from my choices. This may not be the same for you but I personally think we are missing something. Some missing factor/factors that are preventing the return to full health and for me at least causing declining health. The choline deficiency and declining cell membrane health theory is the front runner for me at the moment because multiple lines of evidence point there. The NAD deficiency theory (or poor recycling) is also up there and I’m very keen to hear AlexM’s ideas on this topic. I’m also very interested in porphyria and MSG. These various theories are not mutually exclusive. Something has shifted in me and not in a positive direction, even though vA toxicity symptoms have gone. 

Why Hello @jaj (Jenny)!   How are you feeling?  I hope very well, I'm not very up-to-date here, but I did read about your issues a few months ago.   I'm sorry you had to go through that.  And I do see how you have come up with what appears to be a new issue.

I don't think this is a new issue for me.   I was "diagnosed" (can hair stylists diagnose, LOL?) as hair-dye allergic twenty years ago.  PPD is a horrible toxin used in the manufacture of hair dye, rubber and in dye used in clothing.   I think I was probably reacting all along but just thought "I have such bad skin!".  I didn't realize (DERP!)  that PPD could be bothering me in my environment (and not just in hair dye).   Maybe my skin had to start looking better (from lowered VA) for me to see a clear reaction.  A "peeling the onion" situation.  

I have called myself "chemically sensitive"  for many years.   It's good to finally be able to pinpoint a class of chemicals that I react to.

It's very much like (in my opinion) some people here needing to be gluten free.   A person can't just ignore allergies  Maybe over time one's allergies fade if you get really well.   It does appear that, for instance, my pollen allergies are getting better (but not 100% gone).

I'm actually feeling pretty well overall.  I'm active and fit and energetic etc. and I'm about to be sixty next month!   I've got some new hobbies and an sleeping pretty darn good!

I'm still damaged here and there, (VA does real damage, especially over the long haul) but the body is trying to fix itself.   Some things are probably harder than others!    I think my body is much more responsive to therapies than it was before.  Ourania's success with her bunions is a good example of how the body now has a clearer path to fixing itself (when you get rid of some VA).

I am optimistic for you, Jenny, and think we will all learn a lot from your path. 

Yes, like you, I'm super interested in anything that can help with detoxification of vitamin A!    I'm going to have to catch up with this list after I figure out what to wear, LOL.

Why, oh why aren't we given a user manual for this body?  😉

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I have posted about the blackening of the armpits, groin and other places (which many people suffer from, including myself).  At first I wondered if this was carotenes, but is this, instead, staining from clothing dye?

https://ggenereux.blog/discussion/topic/acanthosis-nigricans-clean-up-in-aisle-3/#postid-11612

I can't believe I'm the only person who has ever put together the idea that acanthosis nigricans could be about dyes from clothing being activated by heat and sweat and sinking into the pores.   It gives me the idea that if such a theory were ever to arise it might not be very popular.   People want to wear what they want to wear.  And clothing manufacturers want to produce things the way they do.

The fact that it is linked with diabetes is quite interesting.   

Acanthosis Nigricans can be a source of embarrassment.   But it isn't because you don't bathe!

If you have ever hand-washed a garment you have seen dye release happen when fabrics are subject to warmth and water.  I've hand washed lots of garments, and never put two and two together.  Hand wash black garments each day, and before you know it your hands will be tinted.  

It isn't rocket surgery!

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@andrew-b, I'm so sorry that you are subject to changing posts full of typos etc while they are in the midst of editing.   LOL   We must log on at the same time each day!

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An idea to help this:

In the olden days women wore a white cotton shift under their colorful clothing.  Men's white shirts were very long and  covered a great deal more of the body.  Colorful clothing was layered on top of it.

In my opinion, a good place to start is your foundational clothing.  Choose un-dyed underthings and socks.   Put a barrier between you and your colorful clothing.   In winter, make your base layer light-colored.  Keep a white scarf with your winter coat, and choose a hat lined with white.

In summer, when less layers are worn and  lots more sweating happens, it is probably appropriate to wear lighter clothing.  You'll also be cooler.  

I wonder if this will also help free up some resources that can be put toward detox?

Indigo-dyed denim is supposely less allergenic than some other dyes.

Photo of a chart showing the high, moderate and low food items that can cross react with a natural latex allergy

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