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Some legumes are very starchy and low oxalate, gluten-free , my main carb are white rice, natur jasmine rice, small red potatoes - low oxalate, chickpeas, sometimes lentils, sprouted mung beans and yellow split peas flour, chickpeas flour, coconut and chestnut flour but I am not zero VA. I do not tolerate corn and gluten free oats - gut problems. I don't eat much fruit anymore - pineapple, bananas but rather more legumes to fit into my daily VA limit. My  oxalate dumping is now over and I have absolute no problems with these legumes.

I was a little paranoid about arsenic in the rice (in the past, I avoided rice because of arsenic) but I am doing preventative one Cutler chelation round every 4-6 weeks (and I will do these rounds to the end of my life) and I soak the white rice overnight, the whole jasmine rice for two days, this can reduce levels of arsenic and the whole fermented rice cooked in pressure cooker is low in antinutrients - lectins, phytic acid. In the past I took kelp capsules, various ayurvedic and chinese herbs and I had very high arsenic in the hair analysis - I got poisoned additionally from food sources to what I already had in the body, arsenic can be very nasty and I use home water filter for arsenic and heavy metals too.

Yesterday I cooked this recipe, I used chickpea, yellow split peas flour and cauliflower, very easy:

https://powerhungry.com/2018/02/3-ingredient-vegetable-flatbread-vegan-grainfree/

And this recipe three days ago:

https://www.rhiansrecipes.com/gluten-free-vegan-bread/

Quote from Orion on June 17, 2019, 6:39 am
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Quote from Liz on June 16, 2019, 9:49 am

@romaine keep us updated regarding the rash. I think in my case the sticker prevented the A to leave the skin, I could not wash it off, so it just marinated under there... I dont think I ever had a contact eczema before, yes from nickel as a child. But that did not behave like this one at all.

I just wanted to add that i prioritize organic due to glyphosate, especially grains and animal flesh. If you havent tried that, maybe it could be something to try to see if it helps you 🙂

Thank you for the help.  I have been eating mostly organic for the last 7 months, not all though.  I recently switched form organic black beans to conventional black eyed peas because I can't find them organic where I live.  I am trying to reduce oxalates and black eyed peas are low, not sure which might be worse for me right now, glyphosate or oxalates.    I don't eat organic bananas either, do you think it is important to though?    The beef and rice I eat are organic.

I'm torn black beans:  low VA but high oxalate, black-eyed:  high VA but low oxalate...

What is the best low VA low oxalate bean to include for fiber 🙂

Lima - large white butter beans are low oxalate.

5 - 10 mg per serving, 1/2 cup, boiled.

 

Many good tips, thank you all 🙂

Low A is complicated enough, adding low oxalate to the list makes me want to crawl up in a fetus position, suck my thumb and mumble strange words while staring out in space... 😂

Or have a fit and eat all my home made very milk chocolaty and buttery baked items I made for work. That I did last night. I feel less like shit than expected. It was delicious but very very dumb.

New day new beginning. I really want to try remineralize my teeth and nails so low oxalate, as low as possible, is a must. I have never had issues with beans, they all agree with me but might take a break from them for a trial period and just stick with meats and fruits I guess.. Corn didnt agree with me pre-A so I think I have to stay away. I wonder if fruits and meat is doable. It sure sounds severely depressive but not as sad as meat only 😂.

Any low A low oxalate input still welcome 🙂 Bring it!

White pattypan squash - low oxalate and very low VA - I like it very much.

White asparagus - was the season now where I am living, very low oxalate.

White currants - now in season, medium oxalate, I don't have number for white version, 100 g weight of black currants contain 19 mg oxalates. 100 g weight of red currants contain 19.8 mg oxalates.

 

 

@bludicka would you mind telling a bit about your oxalate dumping experience, like syntoms and time and so? So I know what to look out for 😂

Quote from Liz on June 18, 2019, 12:06 am

@bludicka would you mind telling a bit about your oxalate dumping experience, like syntoms and time and so? So I know what to look out for 😂

The first two months on low VA diet I had oxalate dumping and it was very difficult for me to distinguish between oxalate dumping and vitamin A detox symptoms. Now when the worst oxalate dumping is over, I can recognize it.

the worst was kidney pain and urinary urgency, cloudy urine/crystals in the urine,  sandy stools

-my mood was very low, depression, brain fog worse, vision is more blurry - both oxalate and vitamin A detox are doing this

- shaking and internal tremors - adrenalin - oxalate detox, dizziness - vitamin A detox, irritability, lower abdomen pains, fatigue, weakness, my gut is worse-inflammation (both vitamin A and oxalates),my hair is worse and fall out (oxalate inhibits biotin-dependent enzymes, both vitamin A and oxalates),  my neurological problems got worse – speech, stuttering and handwriting (still problems with handwriting), the first days I had muscle and bone pains (both vitamin A and oxalates), I have neck stiffness, headaches...(both vitamin A and oxalates) immune system is low (both vitamin A and oxalates), sore throat, flu like symptoms...I am suddenly very cold – oxalate can be stored in thyroid (both vitamin A and oxalates), low back pains (both vitamin A and oxalates), yeast issues - oxalate

These supplements made my oxalate symptoms worse and are often deficient: B1, B6, biotin, B complex, proteins – I was often deficient in lysine.

I am very vitamin A toxic too and my progress is very slow but I will definitely write my progress here.  The last days I was sunbathing 40-50 minutes, I sunbathed every day, I wanted to speed up vitamin A detox but after four days I stopped it, vitamin A dumping symptoms were very intensive and I was in a totall toxic state again, I got a strong heartpounding, skin itching in the sun, strong fatigue,  drowsiness and pressure headaches, more brain fog, low mood and the next days my skin was dry, hair was falling out, nausea, loss of appetite and I had liver pains. But it was remarkable how my body changed in a very short time, more muscle, more strength and  a better body posture. Wenn I was vitamin D deficient, there was muscle weakness, bone pains and no physical strenght, sunshine and natural vitamin D antagonizes vitamin A and vitamin D is probably more available. I am going now very slowly with vitamin A detox.

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And I think, after I finished heavy metal detox, I started to have this oxalate dumping.... one and a half year ago, at this time I had no idea about oxalates and most of the time I ate high-oxalate foods, at the end of March I started with low VA diet and one month later I discovered oxalates and I started to understand what was happening to me the last three years... worsening vitamin A chronic toxicity and oxalate dumping. Vitamin A toxicity seems the last thing in my health recovery, I'll see... It's more complicated with me but the most people have the worst oxalate dumping symptoms from three to six months. Some people feel benefits on low oxalate diet almost immediately.

Quote from bludicka on June 17, 2019, 9:46 pm
Quote from Orion on June 17, 2019, 6:39 am
Quote from romaine on June 16, 2019, 11:33 am
Quote from Liz on June 16, 2019, 9:49 am

@romaine keep us updated regarding the rash. I think in my case the sticker prevented the A to leave the skin, I could not wash it off, so it just marinated under there... I dont think I ever had a contact eczema before, yes from nickel as a child. But that did not behave like this one at all.

I just wanted to add that i prioritize organic due to glyphosate, especially grains and animal flesh. If you havent tried that, maybe it could be something to try to see if it helps you 🙂

Thank you for the help.  I have been eating mostly organic for the last 7 months, not all though.  I recently switched form organic black beans to conventional black eyed peas because I can't find them organic where I live.  I am trying to reduce oxalates and black eyed peas are low, not sure which might be worse for me right now, glyphosate or oxalates.    I don't eat organic bananas either, do you think it is important to though?    The beef and rice I eat are organic.

I'm torn black beans:  low VA but high oxalate, black-eyed:  high VA but low oxalate...

What is the best low VA low oxalate bean to include for fiber 🙂

Lima - large white butter beans are low oxalate.

5 - 10 mg per serving, 1/2 cup, boiled.

 

Thanks @bludicka, I think yellow split peas look like another choice as well, low in oxalates but carotenoids are probably too high for some (303IU/100g).

Lima are 209IU/100g for VA, so might not be option for some.

I will probably stick with black beans for now, since super low in VA, and I don't consume lots, so hopefully not a oxalate issue for me.  Looks like 1/4 cup has about ~50mg oxalates, which is what I would have few times a week, so should be safe, all other staples are zero oxalate for me.

 

 

It doesn't make sense to me that the white beans contain so much carotenoids, they have almost zero vitamin a and zero lutein:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6266829/

But there are  baby lima beans - they're green and high in VA and christmas lima beans...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6266829/

yellow split peas flour: 149 IU/100g

Click to access pulse-flour-brochure.pdf

I will stick with white lima beans and for variety sometimes with chickpeas, yellow split peas and sprouted mung beans...small amounts.
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