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New protocol to fix iron/copper toxicity
I agree that gurus need to take a step back and not act like they know it all. I definitely gave up acting like I knew the answers to stuff a long time ago. Binding fat soluble junk with soluble fiber is probably one of the only things I do recommend to everyone. I don't really care for the plant based information though. I don't think we know enough about nutrition to say we all need to be eating nuts and seeds, or even veggies. Just not convinced.
I'm also not convinced yet that we have to switch to whole grains vs refined grains as many say now or even to eliminate grains altogether. My gut just doesn't seem to appreciate all that rough bran. Beans seem gentle compared to that. Most of the world consumes starches from grains, doesn't seem all that bad as long as we are getting minerals from somewhere else. I mean you can live a long long life eating refined wheat.
Anyway... diet isn't a super strict science, but I remain convinced of the soluble fiber stuff. Not sure about the essentiality of vitamin a yet. I'm not super strict so I guess my n=1 won't ever prove anything.
Also not convinced that we need eggs for lecithin. Red meat seems to have plenty of choline. That being said, my husband did carnivore to lose weight and he's popping up age spots on his face and going gray, losing hair. So I'm not convinced we need to be eating tons of fatty red meat either. Balanced diet may be just about the best advice we could give anyone. But people are so imbalanced from overeating, stress, etc, they may have to do more strict diets for a time.
Also I'm not convinced coffee is healthy, though many apparent long lived people have drank coffee. Doesn't do my body good.
@janelle525 at the end of the day it is about what your specific body in your specific scenario and time needs and I think those needs can be very different from person to perosn. Even for two persons living together the same life style for example.. It is crazy complex and constantly changing. That's why listening some experts who don't deal with people individually and are just pushing protocols for everyone is not a good idea. Because by doing that you basically play russian roulette. It can help you or destroy you..
Yeah your husband is probably overloaded with iron. Possibly low or toxic in copper if he eats or don't eats a lot of organ meats etc.. and low in micronutrients that are simply not in animal foods in good amounts.
Yeah probably the best thing is to eat everything and hope that the body can deal with it and take what it needs..
That's why I think for example traveling all the time and eating all the time different foods is probably the best. Because there is smaller chance to develop some imbalance..
Most people have routine. Eat the same stuff. DO the same stuff. Now you can be lucky and find the routine that is ideal for your body chemistry and genetics and you can live happy to 100 or you can choose the worst routine fore yourself and you end up dead or with serious issues very soon..
Jiri, I'm so bummed about whether blood letting might have goofed up your manganese?
Have you ever just thought maybe you should do an experiment of not supplementing or experimenting for a while, eat "normally", and let nature take you back to whatever stasis your body can find? I say this as one of your biggest fans...
As I said above, mineral supplements have been nothing but problematic for me... But when I get off them my body figures out the issues on it's own.
An example: my neighbor took a bunch of copper supplements and felt the bad effects. She just stopped taking them, and nature brought her back to stasis.
Regarding the greater puzzle of what to eat in this world.
I always wondered why diets through the world have some "empty" white carb in them. But what if "empty" is actually wonderful. What if "empty" actually means "well behaved" and "uncomplicated" and "pure"? Sort of like when you plan a wardrobe, or the interior of a home, you want your Neutral items.
@lil-chick yeah I do take less and less stuff. I don't do anything crazy now and my goal is to ideally not take any pills and stress less and less about diet and stuff.
But I tkink for that I have to change environment completely and to be able to do that I need to be more healthy. So now I am trying to do that and in a mean time to really not do anything stupid so I don't end up even worse hehe..
Which I did when I started taking those stupid thyroid meds. Another 6 months lost basically..
Btw everyone in my situation would go to the doctor and take those meds for the rest of their life. It just I was doing some additional testing and realizing that it doesn't work not to mention the idea of taking some meds for life. Having to deal with nasty endo doctors that don't care about you at all they just want to see good lab number. SO I knew that was a mistake and that is not the way..
Quote from Jiří on October 27, 2025, 10:03 am@janelle525 at the end of the day it is about what your specific body in your specific scenario and time needs and I think those needs can be very different from person to perosn. Even for two persons living together the same life style for example.. It is crazy complex and constantly changing. That's why listening some experts who don't deal with people individually and are just pushing protocols for everyone is not a good idea. Because by doing that you basically play russian roulette. It can help you or destroy you..
Yeah your husband is probably overloaded with iron. Possibly low or toxic in copper if he eats or don't eats a lot of organ meats etc.. and low in micronutrients that are simply not in animal foods in good amounts.
Yeah probably the best thing is to eat everything and hope that the body can deal with it and take what it needs..
That's why I think for example traveling all the time and eating all the time different foods is probably the best. Because there is smaller chance to develop some imbalance..
Most people have routine. Eat the same stuff. DO the same stuff. Now you can be lucky and find the routine that is ideal for your body chemistry and genetics and you can live happy to 100 or you can choose the worst routine fore yourself and you end up dead or with serious issues very soon..
That's so ironic, I just read a comment on Dr. G's X page from someone saying the exact same thing not to stick to diet routine. Have you heard of gboldeuv? From the raypeatforum a long time ago? He said the same thing, that eating the same thing every single day will age someone fast. He also claimed eating lots of seafood is the healthiest diet, I just can't do that. Too gross. Maybe if it's mahi mahi lol.
My husband never did organ meats, just beef. He eats chili and chicken and other things too now, but he just popped up a big pink mole on his face.
@janelle525 Yes Gbolduev is interesting guy. I was on hackstasis forumwhen he was active there.
It makes a lot of sense. Because if you have some routine and you eat couple of your favorite foods/meals all the time. How big is a chance that the composition of micronutrients from that routine diet will be ideal for your body..
But when you travel and eat in hotel buffets all the time or out in different restaurants etc.. You can just pick or order what looks good to you and that will be probably better range of stuff that the body can work with.. A lot of people even buy from the same shop or brand for many years. So if there is something wrong with that specific supermarket, restaurant, fast food or brand of food or whatever. You just create that imbalance like for example some toxicity much faster..
Unless like I said you live in a blue zone somewhere where everything is fresh, organic, wide range of stuff next to the ocean where soil is loaded with minerals etc. and you living no stress life there. That is probably good routine for everyone hah..
I love sea food. I could eat it all the time. But I don't think it is that good in high amounts. Loaded with microplastic, mercury etc.. He was not a fan of foods high in hormones like dairy etc.. His thinking behind it was that it will alter biochemistry..
If your husband eats just beef that is crazy unbalanced. All you have to do just put for example just a lot of beef into cronometer and see if you have some micronutirnets in very high amounts and some in low amounts.. All that zinc and iron will lower manganese, copper for sure. Not to mention fiber. His liver has probably hard time removing toxins etc.. Adding some grains, legumes would be probably good idea.. Even some veggies, fruits. What he likes.. ALso calcium will be probably low and calcium to phosphorus ratio will be really bad.. Eating some hard cheese and less meat also probably good idea.. Just meat diet is simply disaster long term. Good as short term elimination diet but that's about it..
@whatisaging "I couldn't find a single product designated as apolactoferrin, so I tried lactoferrin."
@whatisaging Btw It binds to iron really strongly. When I was taking it. I felt like there is not single drop of blood in me. Like zero oxygenation. I don't remember how much I was taking, but probably more than 1 a day. Maybe 2-3. I would never do that again lol. I think small dose to keep free iron low that can feed pathogens or cause oxidative stress is good. Maybe even half of 1 capsule a day.. But I found out it can make you anemic like crazy if you overdose..