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#221 · November 16, 2025, 9:00 am

@whatisaging I am reading this sad comment from nick sheilarm https://lowtoxinforum.com/threads/estrogen-warning-labels-removed-for-the-dangers-of-estrogen.54003/

Why nobody is telling her that she needs to balance elements ASAP. That she is estrogen dominant probably due to copper excess and zinc deficiency? Pls push her in right direction.. Ideally HTMA and blood test if she is high iron as well so she can do HG7...

#222 · November 16, 2025, 9:11 am

@jiri

I can DM her to your post here, but I haven't studied cancer at all, so that's my limit. You can also DM on that forum with a free account.

#223 · November 16, 2025, 9:26 am

@whatisaging I am not expert on cancer as well, but what is causing estrogen dominance is pretty clear. Liver issues, issues detoxing excess estrogen/copper and that goes hand in hand with low zinc.. I can't DM on that forum it doesn't work don't know why..

#224 · November 16, 2025, 3:12 pm

@jiri hello I am new to forums.. even tho an older person lol… don’t know where to start… 56 years old, post menopause, always flushed even before.. more so now… tried supplements over the years… not on any prescription medications… took levothyroxine for years then last year, Feb 2024 diagnosed with breast cancer.. stage 1.. tiny.. lumpectomy successful… 21 radiation treatments.. started intermittent fasting.. lost 25 lbs… took exemastane for 10 months… caused diarrhea… stopped in March…. taking idea labs products estroban, topical b vitamins, methylene blue.. all topical… vitamin d oral after cancer diagnosis as my level was 21 and now using topical (in the estroban formula)… the last year and 1/2 been trying different things… never feel really great… reading Haidut.. taking famotidine, loratadine, aspirin.... I want to do the hair sample or nail sample analysis to see where I am … idea labs has one…. read this entire thread… I like what I see… any ideas from you would be greatly appreciated. I agree that we each have to find for ourselves what works.

#225 · November 17, 2025, 12:48 am

Quote from Joe2 on November 17, 2025, 12:48 am

Quote from Sheila on November 16, 2025, 3:12 pm

@jiri hello I am new to forums.. even tho an older person lol… don’t know where to start… 56 years old, post menopause, always flushed even before.. more so now… tried supplements over the years… not on any prescription medications… took levothyroxine for years then last year, Feb 2024 diagnosed with breast cancer.. stage 1.. tiny.. lumpectomy successful… 21 radiation treatments.. started intermittent fasting.. lost 25 lbs… took exemastane for 10 months… caused diarrhea… stopped in March…. taking idea labs products estroban, topical b vitamins, methylene blue.. all topical… vitamin d oral after cancer diagnosis as my level was 21 and now using topical (in the estroban formula)… the last year and 1/2 been trying different things… never feel really great… reading Haidut.. taking famotidine, loratadine, aspirin.... I want to do the hair sample or nail sample analysis to see where I am … idea labs has one…. read this entire thread… I like what I see… any ideas from you would be greatly appreciated. I agree that we each have to find for ourselves what works.

That is a lot going on and that has gone on. You have found some form of balance state of health or you would not have made it through all that nor be able to read what you have so far. First suggestion is whatever change you try first, make it one thing and one thing only and make it a small change. Keep it singular to make the results of the change clearer. Keep it small to keep the downside risks of the change minimal.

Besides that, suggest you read Grant's books and his posts on the forum.

For what it is worth, my opinions include:

Any vitamin D not derived in the skin from UVB light is rat poison. Please avoid. Skin may be sensitive to start. Short mild exposures can be built upon.

Methylene blue is poison. Whatever relief received is from duration paradox. Liver is working to intox and store the poison so it is not detoxing and excreting any other poisons into the system. Poison is bad on the way in and on the way out. Sometimes more painful on the way out. Liver will only detox when it is not busy intoxxing. When it does detox, it can do so too aggressively for kidneys and colon to get poisons completely out of the body before they get reintoxxed. Hence more pain. This is how addictions work. This is why tapering off poisons is usually a better way to go.

All drugs are variations on poisons. All cause various symptoms and depress a different variety of symptoms. Again, temporary short term relief with longer term worse problems. It only means the liver has more to detox later and the kidneys and colon have more to excrete.

Fasting gives temporary relief by shutting down intake of toxins and minimizing detox of stored toxins. Breaking fast is critical for restart and ramp up of kidneys and colon. This can reduce prevent liver dumping toxins faster than excretory organs can get them out.

It also might help to start your own thread outlining how you got here, what you eat, supplement, medicate and what your symptoms are. And what you want.

Best of luck.

Quote from Sheila on November 16, 2025, 3:12 pm

@jiri hello I am new to forums.. even tho an older person lol… don’t know where to start… 56 years old, post menopause, always flushed even before.. more so now… tried supplements over the years… not on any prescription medications… took levothyroxine for years then last year, Feb 2024 diagnosed with breast cancer.. stage 1.. tiny.. lumpectomy successful… 21 radiation treatments.. started intermittent fasting.. lost 25 lbs… took exemastane for 10 months… caused diarrhea… stopped in March…. taking idea labs products estroban, topical b vitamins, methylene blue.. all topical… vitamin d oral after cancer diagnosis as my level was 21 and now using topical (in the estroban formula)… the last year and 1/2 been trying different things… never feel really great… reading Haidut.. taking famotidine, loratadine, aspirin.... I want to do the hair sample or nail sample analysis to see where I am … idea labs has one…. read this entire thread… I like what I see… any ideas from you would be greatly appreciated. I agree that we each have to find for ourselves what works.

That is a lot going on and that has gone on. You have found some form of balance state of health or you would not have made it through all that nor be able to read what you have so far. First suggestion is whatever change you try first, make it one thing and one thing only and make it a small change. Keep it singular to make the results of the change clearer. Keep it small to keep the downside risks of the change minimal.

Besides that, suggest you read Grant's books and his posts on the forum.

For what it is worth, my opinions include:

Any vitamin D not derived in the skin from UVB light is rat poison. Please avoid. Skin may be sensitive to start. Short mild exposures can be built upon.

Methylene blue is poison. Whatever relief received is from duration paradox. Liver is working to intox and store the poison so it is not detoxing and excreting any other poisons into the system. Poison is bad on the way in and on the way out. Sometimes more painful on the way out. Liver will only detox when it is not busy intoxxing. When it does detox, it can do so too aggressively for kidneys and colon to get poisons completely out of the body before they get reintoxxed. Hence more pain. This is how addictions work. This is why tapering off poisons is usually a better way to go.

All drugs are variations on poisons. All cause various symptoms and depress a different variety of symptoms. Again, temporary short term relief with longer term worse problems. It only means the liver has more to detox later and the kidneys and colon have more to excrete.

Fasting gives temporary relief by shutting down intake of toxins and minimizing detox of stored toxins. Breaking fast is critical for restart and ramp up of kidneys and colon. This can reduce prevent liver dumping toxins faster than excretory organs can get them out.

It also might help to start your own thread outlining how you got here, what you eat, supplement, medicate and what your symptoms are. And what you want.

Best of luck.

#226 · November 17, 2025, 2:15 am

Quote from Jiří on November 17, 2025, 2:15 am
@sheila I would recommend only hair testing with help some nutritional balancing practitioner who is doing the tests in ARl or TEl laboratory. Everything else is not accurate. Only hair sample from back of the head and testing in those specific USA laboratories where hair testing was developed. ARl has 40 years of experience with it.. YOu were estrogen dominant your whole life? You were on birth control pills? Copper IUD? Vegan, vegetarian diets low in zinc and high in copper? All that will cause estrogen dominance/copper toxicity. Also if you have amalgams they don't help as well. That chronic mercury exposure depletes minerals like zinc, selenium, iodine and and makes it harder for your body to deal with estrogen/copper.. You can read more on copper toxicity here if you can relate to what they are saying https://www.coppertoxic.com/

I agree with @joe2 that you should stay away from all pills that are not in category essential vitamin or mineral. I don't agree that much on vit D. If you do the blood test and it is very low I would recommend to take safe dose around 5000iu but only with magnesium, vit K2. Not by itself and not without testing it.. Ideal scenario is walking outside and be on the sun(without burning yourself) but many people can't do it now when winter comes..

Haidut stuff will not help you. He is watching everything from Ray Peat perspective. They have some good points, but the stuff they recommend and diet with dairy etc.. is the worst stuff you can eat. Dairy is loaded with hormones. You need lean protein and starch with soluble fiber to help the liver start detoxing. Key micronutrients to help detox estrogen is iodine. Peat was anti iodine. You have to be careful to start very slow. Especially if you are selenium deficient if you have mercury issues as well etc.. Specifically for that is great hair test that will show you your selenium and metal levels. You are probably low in stuff like molybdenum, chromium etc. as well. Zinc for sure. Here is a good audio to listen from Dr.Wilson who is from ARl laboratory. He is little insane today, but the knowledge he put out there of the years and the laboratory are still the best in the world. You just need to find decent practitioner who can help you to order the test and what you should do. It is not fast fix. It is long term solid balanced plan to follow. SO you don't eat or take completely different stuff than you should.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epa786rpQ14&t=2s

So tell more about your health history even from child so we can more understand and what was/is your diet.

Another important question if you have gallbladder/bile issues because estrogen dominance often means gallstones, removed gallbladder etc.. That is very important.. Without good bile flow you can't detox properly. IF your bile flow is good(dark brown poop that is not floating and comes out easily) that is the best case scenario and you need to start eating goof amount of soluble fiber - Watch some stuff on Karen Hurd. I don't agree with everything she is saying, but in terms of fiber, liver detox of old bile, hormones etc.. she is great.. I would stop all dairy especially fatty dairy no butter. They are all loaded with hormones that your body has hard time detoxing. You need lean meat, starch, legumes diet if you can handle legumes. If not oats(organic) and psyllium husk to up soluble fiber intake are great. Ray Pea/ Haidut are anti fiber especially anti soluble fiber. See it is complete paradox. Ray was so anti estrogen, but his diet low in soluble fiber and high in dairy is perfect for creating estrogen issues. It is completely insane and completely backwards..

So right now without any testing you can start the diet(slowly build up fiber intake don't go from zero to 40g a day..) what I described and if you don't have mouth full of amalgams hopefully without any testing you can start taking some

iodine slowly up to 1000mcg

selenium 200mcg

zinc 15-30mg

molybdenum 150-400mcg

magnesium 300-400mg

lower dose B complex with active forms

vit E complex(that will help keep the blood thinner as well. I would stop aspirin)

K2 40-100mcg and if you decide to take D3 no more than 5000iu(without testing I think 2000iu will not hurt you)

I think those are the most important to start dealing with estrogen dominance. But the diet meat, starch, soluble fiber is the most important. ALso no high copper foods like chocolate, nuts, seeds(Karen Hurd recommends them that is bad idea in your case. Legumes have plenty of copper) for fats good quality olive oil is the best. No dairy fat full of hormones..

I assume that you binge on stuff like chocolate especially when Ray Peat was talking about it? That is all sign of copper toxicity, adrenal issues. YOu have to stop it.. Nutritional balancing is talking about all of this..

I would stop any longer fasting than 12-15 hours during the night. Fasting slows down metabolism that means liver function and detox as well.. YOu want to keep that machine going. Never skip breakfast. 3 meals a day is ok for most people.

I know it is hard to completely switch who you listen to. But Ray Peat stuff is death sentence..

Btw in terms of that HG7 protocol. I think it could be a good idea for people like you, but I still think that hair testing in ARl or TEI and following their program is superior. Ideally we could/should mix them together. I think the ability of the HG7 protocol guy to calibrate based on symptoms is impressive and it could be helpful. But for people who have no experience in this hair test and following their program seems to be better idea at least initially..

@sheila I would recommend only hair testing with help some nutritional balancing practitioner who is doing the tests in ARl or TEl laboratory. Everything else is not accurate. Only hair sample from back of the head and testing in those specific USA laboratories where hair testing was developed. ARl has 40 years of experience with it.. YOu were estrogen dominant your whole life? You were on birth control pills? Copper IUD? Vegan, vegetarian diets low in zinc and high in copper? All that will cause estrogen dominance/copper toxicity. Also if you have amalgams they don't help as well. That chronic mercury exposure depletes minerals like zinc, selenium, iodine and and makes it harder for your body to deal with estrogen/copper.. You can read more on copper toxicity here if you can relate to what they are saying https://www.coppertoxic.com/

I agree with @joe2 that you should stay away from all pills that are not in category essential vitamin or mineral. I don't agree that much on vit D. If you do the blood test and it is very low I would recommend to take safe dose around 5000iu but only with magnesium, vit K2. Not by itself and not without testing it.. Ideal scenario is walking outside and be on the sun(without burning yourself) but many people can't do it now when winter comes..

Haidut stuff will not help you. He is watching everything from Ray Peat perspective. They have some good points, but the stuff they recommend and diet with dairy etc.. is the worst stuff you can eat. Dairy is loaded with hormones. You need lean protein and starch with soluble fiber to help the liver start detoxing. Key micronutrients to help detox estrogen is iodine. Peat was anti iodine. You have to be careful to start very slow. Especially if you are selenium deficient if you have mercury issues as well etc.. Specifically for that is great hair test that will show you your selenium and metal levels. You are probably low in stuff like molybdenum, chromium etc. as well. Zinc for sure. Here is a good audio to listen from Dr.Wilson who is from ARl laboratory. He is little insane today, but the knowledge he put out there of the years and the laboratory are still the best in the world. You just need to find decent practitioner who can help you to order the test and what you should do. It is not fast fix. It is long term solid balanced plan to follow. SO you don't eat or take completely different stuff than you should.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epa786rpQ14&t=2s

So tell more about your health history even from child so we can more understand and what was/is your diet.

Another important question if you have gallbladder/bile issues because estrogen dominance often means gallstones, removed gallbladder etc.. That is very important.. Without good bile flow you can't detox properly. IF your bile flow is good(dark brown poop that is not floating and comes out easily) that is the best case scenario and you need to start eating goof amount of soluble fiber - Watch some stuff on Karen Hurd. I don't agree with everything she is saying, but in terms of fiber, liver detox of old bile, hormones etc.. she is great.. I would stop all dairy especially fatty dairy no butter. They are all loaded with hormones that your body has hard time detoxing. You need lean meat, starch, legumes diet if you can handle legumes. If not oats(organic) and psyllium husk to up soluble fiber intake are great. Ray Pea/ Haidut are anti fiber especially anti soluble fiber. See it is complete paradox. Ray was so anti estrogen, but his diet low in soluble fiber and high in dairy is perfect for creating estrogen issues. It is completely insane and completely backwards..

So right now without any testing you can start the diet(slowly build up fiber intake don't go from zero to 40g a day..) what I described and if you don't have mouth full of amalgams hopefully without any testing you can start taking some

iodine slowly up to 1000mcg

selenium 200mcg

zinc 15-30mg

molybdenum 150-400mcg

magnesium 300-400mg

lower dose B complex with active forms

vit E complex(that will help keep the blood thinner as well. I would stop aspirin)

K2 40-100mcg and if you decide to take D3 no more than 5000iu(without testing I think 2000iu will not hurt you)

I think those are the most important to start dealing with estrogen dominance. But the diet meat, starch, soluble fiber is the most important. ALso no high copper foods like chocolate, nuts, seeds(Karen Hurd recommends them that is bad idea in your case. Legumes have plenty of copper) for fats good quality olive oil is the best. No dairy fat full of hormones..

I assume that you binge on stuff like chocolate especially when Ray Peat was talking about it? That is all sign of copper toxicity, adrenal issues. YOu have to stop it.. Nutritional balancing is talking about all of this..

I would stop any longer fasting than 12-15 hours during the night. Fasting slows down metabolism that means liver function and detox as well.. YOu want to keep that machine going. Never skip breakfast. 3 meals a day is ok for most people.

I know it is hard to completely switch who you listen to. But Ray Peat stuff is death sentence..

Btw in terms of that HG7 protocol. I think it could be a good idea for people like you, but I still think that hair testing in ARl or TEI and following their program is superior. Ideally we could/should mix them together. I think the ability of the HG7 protocol guy to calibrate based on symptoms is impressive and it could be helpful. But for people who have no experience in this hair test and following their program seems to be better idea at least initially..

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#227 · November 17, 2025, 4:49 am

Quote from Sheila on November 17, 2025, 4:49 am
@jiri @joe2

it is uncanny how from my short post you figured out my history…. late menses.. at 15 years of age… yes to birth control pills (25 years worth)… yes to copper IUD (10 years).. yes to amalgams (30 years and counting.. yep, still in there)… no children…. never vegan but not a huge meat eater either.. since age 50 tried protein powders.. hurt my kidneys…. very sensitive to medications of any kind… tried a Ray Peat diet a few years back and developed something like a dumping syndrome… juice and potatoes… way too much sugar…. kind of got away from his ideas… then the cancer diagnosis… lumpectomy in February 2024.. then had total hysterectomy July 2024 (my aunt died from ovarian cancer at 56)… turned everything on its head… started searching for things to help.. always thought I was healthy.. never smoked, never drank alcholol…. had gained some weight but always athletic.. still with middle age I gained weight… started trying to eat more meat in last year… I fast around 15 hours max.. have let up a little in that if I am hungry, I will eat around 11 am… eat my last meal before 7 pm… sometimes later… I eat carbs.. yes to chocolate… you have a crystal ball…. last late spring started a homemade yogurt (I watch too much youtube)… did that for 2 months.. was also taking the exemastane… developed the chronic diarrhea… stopped the yogurt.. now unable to tolerate dairy of any kind.. gives me heart palpitations at night… causes my head to feel woozy… so i just avoid all kinds.. do use olive oil, avocado oil… buy my meat and eggs from an amish farm… eat bacon, beef, chicken, some fish.. the fat seems to bother me…. always CONSTIPATED… hypothyroid diagnosis 2008.. levothyroxine 75 mcg daily for years… started the vitamin D after cancer diagnosis and coincidentally had to stop the levothyroxine.. would flush repeatedly every time I took it… flushing by the way is my life… always flushed as a teen… less so in the 20’s, 30;s.. 40’s.. perimenopause around 47… stopped periods around 49…. flush all the time.. figured out that anything estrogenic would set it off…. did not think about estrogen until menopause… foods would make it worse… started avoiding so many foods… flavored waters set it off… now thinking toxic and unable to get rid of chemicals… geez…. I have started eating fruit more.. limited to berries or grapes this weekend for first time in 2 years.. need more fiber as you said… afraid of too much sugar …. AIC was 5.6… it did drop to 5.3… diabetes is a death sentence too…. my searching led me to Haidut …. felt familiar with Ray Peat.. more up to date… of course I am searching…. still don’t feel right.. don’t tolerate much oral so the topical sounded wonderful… I am going to do the hair sample with the company you suggested… I have several supplements to suggested on hand as well… I used lugols iodine orally years ago… was able to taper off the levothyroxine while using it.. but it seemed to mess with my heart … now if I take kelp I flush like CRAZY…. so suggestions on brands would be helpful if you don’t mind sharing… seems like I have to have more salt than ever before… always had the occasional cramp in my calf but last few months, noctturnal cramps horrible… taking oral magnesium, but read somewhere that I think can lower sodium if taking B6…. of course I don’t know for sure… but If I don’t drink basically salt water, then I cramp daily…. have cut back on the topical mag because of it… but I know mag is so good for us… well, I hope this helps with my history… I will think of things later I forgot to mention. I so appreciate all of your help. Oh.. I do take cascara sagrada for constipation… just ordered some topical EMODIN from Haidut … slow transit time is huge….

@jiri @joe2

it is uncanny how from my short post you figured out my history…. late menses.. at 15 years of age… yes to birth control pills (25 years worth)… yes to copper IUD (10 years).. yes to amalgams (30 years and counting.. yep, still in there)… no children…. never vegan but not a huge meat eater either.. since age 50 tried protein powders.. hurt my kidneys…. very sensitive to medications of any kind… tried a Ray Peat diet a few years back and developed something like a dumping syndrome… juice and potatoes… way too much sugar…. kind of got away from his ideas… then the cancer diagnosis… lumpectomy in February 2024.. then had total hysterectomy July 2024 (my aunt died from ovarian cancer at 56)… turned everything on its head… started searching for things to help.. always thought I was healthy.. never smoked, never drank alcholol…. had gained some weight but always athletic.. still with middle age I gained weight… started trying to eat more meat in last year… I fast around 15 hours max.. have let up a little in that if I am hungry, I will eat around 11 am… eat my last meal before 7 pm… sometimes later… I eat carbs.. yes to chocolate… you have a crystal ball…. last late spring started a homemade yogurt (I watch too much youtube)… did that for 2 months.. was also taking the exemastane… developed the chronic diarrhea… stopped the yogurt.. now unable to tolerate dairy of any kind.. gives me heart palpitations at night… causes my head to feel woozy… so i just avoid all kinds.. do use olive oil, avocado oil… buy my meat and eggs from an amish farm… eat bacon, beef, chicken, some fish.. the fat seems to bother me…. always CONSTIPATED… hypothyroid diagnosis 2008.. levothyroxine 75 mcg daily for years… started the vitamin D after cancer diagnosis and coincidentally had to stop the levothyroxine.. would flush repeatedly every time I took it… flushing by the way is my life… always flushed as a teen… less so in the 20’s, 30;s.. 40’s.. perimenopause around 47… stopped periods around 49…. flush all the time.. figured out that anything estrogenic would set it off…. did not think about estrogen until menopause… foods would make it worse… started avoiding so many foods… flavored waters set it off… now thinking toxic and unable to get rid of chemicals… geez…. I have started eating fruit more.. limited to berries or grapes this weekend for first time in 2 years.. need more fiber as you said… afraid of too much sugar …. AIC was 5.6… it did drop to 5.3… diabetes is a death sentence too…. my searching led me to Haidut …. felt familiar with Ray Peat.. more up to date… of course I am searching…. still don’t feel right.. don’t tolerate much oral so the topical sounded wonderful… I am going to do the hair sample with the company you suggested… I have several supplements to suggested on hand as well… I used lugols iodine orally years ago… was able to taper off the levothyroxine while using it.. but it seemed to mess with my heart … now if I take kelp I flush like CRAZY…. so suggestions on brands would be helpful if you don’t mind sharing… seems like I have to have more salt than ever before… always had the occasional cramp in my calf but last few months, noctturnal cramps horrible… taking oral magnesium, but read somewhere that I think can lower sodium if taking B6…. of course I don’t know for sure… but If I don’t drink basically salt water, then I cramp daily…. have cut back on the topical mag because of it… but I know mag is so good for us… well, I hope this helps with my history… I will think of things later I forgot to mention. I so appreciate all of your help. Oh.. I do take cascara sagrada for constipation… just ordered some topical EMODIN from Haidut … slow transit time is huge….

#228 · November 17, 2025, 5:11 am

@sheila it is not uncanny. It is just very common pattern when it comes to females, estrogen.. SO everything I wrote applies to you.

You should do safe removal of amalgams and replace them with some BPA free composite. Do hair test like I said with Luke Pryor for example and to the program.

You are mercury toxic, copper toxic for sure. Deficient in everything I said iodine, selenium, zinc etc.

Looking anywhere else but on this(balancing minerals, detoxing mercury and other stuff) will not fix the root cause of your issues.

Becasue of your constipation issues you will have probably bad bile flow. Maybe even gallstones.. DO you have pain under right ribs where the gallbladder is?

For that liver flushes and coffee enema are great to help the liver. You need to be careful with soluble fiber it could make constipation worse..

Too much magnesium does lower sodium and makes you more dehydrated. You have probably issues with adrenals as well. So that's why you can't retain salt and you have cramps.. It is all heavy metal, copper toxicity related.

Nutritional balancing covers all of this.

Amalgams complicate things because it is constant mercury exposure and before you start detoxing it by taking selenium, zinc, iodine etc.. You need to remove that source of the toxin..

I know it is expensive, but it is best investment that you can make. Also once amalgams are out making your own or buy near infrared sauna and start to help the body detox. But like I said everything like that is covered in nutritional balancing program after hair test..

I would forget about Ray Peat and Haidut and their approaches.

Anyways that's all I can say about your case. It is up to you what you chose to do. I am not saying blindly follow what I just wrote. Look it up and make your own decision..

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#229 · November 17, 2025, 7:46 am

@jiri

Thank you! I reached out to the analytics research lab… seems I have to contact a provider here in Georgia to order the sample. They emailed me a list….. as far as the amalgams.. I mentioned to my dentist last year and he seemed interested .. I will call them to see if they can do… even if one at a time… I still have my gallbladder… last fall I had an abdominal ultrasound that showed normal liver, kidneys and gallbladder… no stones… I do not have pain under my ribs on the right… I do have on and off pain lower abdomen left and right… figured it’s constipation… as it is transient…. I have been taking zinc 15mg and selenium 100mg.. all last week.. although I was grumpy… could be from the mercury?? Really want the hair sample… looking online at the other one you mentioned… TEI… no doc required… due to getting this going, I’m going to go with these guys…

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#230 · November 17, 2025, 8:20 am

Quote from Jiří on November 17, 2025, 8:20 am
@sheila Keep in mind it is very good idea to to the safe removal. Where they us all kinds of safe equipment to make sure that you are not breathing those toxic mercury vapors while they are drilled out. Some people ended up with serious issues after bad removal.. I went here in my country to the specialist on the other side of the country paying him cash(basically all money I had at the time)even when I had dentist literally across the street(I can see him working from the window) and have it for free covered by insurance. Because I know he doesn't use any safe equipment he doesn't care about any of this mercury toxicity issues etc..

TEl is good lab. It is even testing much more elements than ARl, but they use different methods how to determine all kinds of mineral patterns, have completely different approach to supplements etc.. I did my last test with Luke Pryor he uses ARl laboratory. I didn't needed his coaching so I ordered only test. You could try him. He does it very long time and will recommend to you supplements from Valence.

I can't find that web where I ordered the test. https://lifelabshtma.com/ I would order from Luke hair test with consultation as well and so he can explain it to you better and also that you can msg him if you have any questions while doing the program. For beginners it is important to have the practitioner on hand.. Because there is many ups and downs while you are detoxing all kinds of stuff.. Also keep in mind it is not like you do first test and you see everything what is going on with you. For most people first test just shows what oxidation type you are and what you need and only after you start taking minerals that you need and retest you will see more things start to happen. Toxic metals go up etc.. If you have low toxins in first hair test it usually means you are bad eliminator and you start eliminating once you start taking what you need to push those metals out.. ALso you need to look at your life style. Keep stress low etc.. It is all related..

Btw for the liver and better bile flow you can try TUDCA, taurine, glycine and sunflower lecithin. Good bile flow= no constipation.. Luke will recommend you near infrared sauna and coffee enemas as well. They are all powerful to start detox. But first I would do that amalgam removal.. Keep in mind that the dentist has to use powerful vacuum and you should have breathing tube in your nose so you don't breath those toxic mercury vapors.. Otherwise it can really damage you..

@sheila Keep in mind it is very good idea to to the safe removal. Where they us all kinds of safe equipment to make sure that you are not breathing those toxic mercury vapors while they are drilled out. Some people ended up with serious issues after bad removal.. I went here in my country to the specialist on the other side of the country paying him cash(basically all money I had at the time)even when I had dentist literally across the street(I can see him working from the window) and have it for free covered by insurance. Because I know he doesn't use any safe equipment he doesn't care about any of this mercury toxicity issues etc..

TEl is good lab. It is even testing much more elements than ARl, but they use different methods how to determine all kinds of mineral patterns, have completely different approach to supplements etc.. I did my last test with Luke Pryor he uses ARl laboratory. I didn't needed his coaching so I ordered only test. You could try him. He does it very long time and will recommend to you supplements from Valence.

I can't find that web where I ordered the test. https://lifelabshtma.com/ I would order from Luke hair test with consultation as well and so he can explain it to you better and also that you can msg him if you have any questions while doing the program. For beginners it is important to have the practitioner on hand.. Because there is many ups and downs while you are detoxing all kinds of stuff.. Also keep in mind it is not like you do first test and you see everything what is going on with you. For most people first test just shows what oxidation type you are and what you need and only after you start taking minerals that you need and retest you will see more things start to happen. Toxic metals go up etc.. If you have low toxins in first hair test it usually means you are bad eliminator and you start eliminating once you start taking what you need to push those metals out.. ALso you need to look at your life style. Keep stress low etc.. It is all related..

Btw for the liver and better bile flow you can try TUDCA, taurine, glycine and sunflower lecithin. Good bile flow= no constipation.. Luke will recommend you near infrared sauna and coffee enemas as well. They are all powerful to start detox. But first I would do that amalgam removal.. Keep in mind that the dentist has to use powerful vacuum and you should have breathing tube in your nose so you don't breath those toxic mercury vapors.. Otherwise it can really damage you..

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