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@alexm I wonder what is in adrenal glandular. I ordered some bovine from swanson but never used it because I was scared that I simply don't know what hormones or what is in it. I don't understand how that works. I understand that in thyroid glandular will be thyroid hormones. but from adrenals? Like you take glandular and there will be some cortisol/adrenaline or whatever how that can help with adrenals? You want to lower stress hormones so how taking stress hormones will help? To me it makes sense take raw material for adrenals like B vitamins, vit C etc.. Btw I always forget can you tell me or is there any website where they talk about what minerals lower what minerals and what minerals increase other minerals? Like I don't know why but every time I try potassium chloride in my meals it makes me constipated.. Everyone says potassium helps you poop... Btw how much and which copper antagonistic minerals you were taking and how long it take to see that change?
Some interesting info about copper homeostasis if someone wants to read it.. https://www.mdpi.com/1422-0067/21/14/4932
Quote from Jiří on February 2, 2024, 11:56 am@alexm I wonder what is in adrenal glandular. I ordered some bovine from swanson but never used it because I was scared that I simply don't know what hormones or what is in it. I don't understand how that works. I understand that in thyroid glandular will be thyroid hormones. but from adrenals? Like you take glandular and there will be some cortisol/adrenaline or whatever how that can help with adrenals? You want to lower stress hormones so how taking stress hormones will help? To me it makes sense take raw material for adrenals like B vitamins, vit C etc.. Btw I always forget can you tell me or is there any website where they talk about what minerals lower what minerals and what minerals increase other minerals? Like I don't know why but every time I try potassium chloride in my meals it makes me constipated.. Everyone says potassium helps you poop... Btw how much and which copper antagonistic minerals you were taking and how long it take to see that change?
Not sure but I know glandulars contain the RNA and raw material of glands which can help someone's body repair their own damaged glands. I wouldn't take the adrenal complex on its own, only take it with the TEI recommendations as their supplements all work together for turning correct metabolism back on. I'm pretty sure everyone in this forum would be suggested an adrenal glandular based on their HTMA results from TEI as I believe copper metabolism here isn't working for people. Believe me taking b vitamins and taking adrenal glands are two completely different things for supporting the adrenals I've tried both. Sometimes when I get sugar cravings taking the adrenal glandular gets rid of it.
If potassium makes you consitpated the first thought that comes to mind is it is feeding some pathogen which is very common as pathogens block potassium channels.
Can't remember what I was taking maybe 5mg zinc picolinate, 150mcg molybednum, 200mcg selenium maybe for a month or something. But back then I couldn't take much zinc without feeling dead, now I can take 50mg of zinc on its own no issues. Also I find zinc picolinate to be a shitty form of zinc for me, it never dumped more bile and it didn't seem bioavailable, the life extension zinc caps with zinc citrate and methionine work best for me and felt bioavailable like the zinc was actually working.
When I did hair test they recommended like 90mg of zinc lol. Can't imagine taking dose like that in shape I was in.. I would probably end badly because it was before vit A detox. Gbolduev was talking how increasing adrenaline with exercise helps increase ceruloplasmin and use up copper. That many people fix cancer like that they run. run and run and they detoxed like that.. I do feel great when I exercise. But it is hard on adrenals for sure. So it needs to be cycled.. Most people who do HTMA programs tell you you need to rest as much as possible and eventually you will start dumping copper, but that wasn't the case for me. I literally lost like 7 years of my life doing nothing and "resting" I got worse as time passed.. Now I think the best protocol is to stimulate the body exercise, sun, sauna, a lot of breathing, avoid what we want to detox obviously and keep replenishing what is lost during the process.. So you take 50mg of zinc a day now? + what is in the diet? That is a lot.. I take 30mg capsule of glycinate chelate every othet day most ot he time. 100mcg of selenium daily and once a week 400mcg molybdenum..
@jiri That was probably ARL recomendations, I don't think ARL or ARL practioners are good a lot of people had issues with them. I'm talking about TEI for HTMA, they never recommended me high zinc once. TEI have recommended me copper based on my results once and then after that just their slow oxidiser supplement without any added minerals
Nah I don't take 50mg of zinc a day, I just take it when I am feeling like it, which is sometimes not everyday, could be anywhere from 10-50mg. If I eat high Vitamin A or calcium foods for example then I take zinc.
My diet atm I eat organic beef burgers, chicken (breast and thighs), eggs, oranges, orange juice, lemon and limes, oats, chickpeas, potatoes, haricot beans, grapefruit, soft cheese (but I'm tryna cut down on this as calcium is blocking potassium), whey protein, onions red and white, cabbage, cauliflower, parsnips, virgin olive oil, coconut oil, tomato olive oil and basil sauce for meat, celery, sometimes eat haddock loin (white fish), sometimes apples bannanas and coffee (flat white with milk), occasionally ice cream. And in last few days I've been making my own chocolate chip cookies with coconut oil, whole wheat flour, eggs, chocolate chips, golden caster sugar, whey protein, baking powder but I don't think are ideal health wise as too much sugar and fat but I get crazy libido boosts from them where as no other food does that for me which is weird. Everything I eat is organic which makes a big difference luckily I have the money to get that.
Also I got an organic flour now that doesn't have iron added which is good because the iron they add to most flours is very toxic and thats why I eventually have issues when I eat stuff with the iron containing flours.
@jiri Also you know ARL and TEIs approach to mineral balancing is completely different right? ARL for slow oxidisers shut down the adrenals and thyroid by giving calcium for slow oxidisers to give them a chance to rest and heal where as TEI don't do this and is about raising NA and K levels in the cells and raising metabolism, TEI are also much more cautious about giving copper to people and also don't give calcium to slow oxidisers.
@alexm I know and how they rise Na and K levels? Just eating more potassium and sodium? I think potassium makes me constipated and dry because it is antagonistic to sodium. When I tried stupid citrus, grape fast for 3 days with no sodium I was so dehydrated it was amazing that I survived lol.. Copper increases sodium right? Zinc lowers it? You have wide range of foods in the diet. I feel like I should eat low vit A, low copper, low saturated fat and cholesterol, low oxalate, low PUFA. Basically chicken breast with white rice and maybe oats with whey protein, some banana, cucumber, olive oil heh..
I started eating less fatty cuts of meat and eat only lean chicken/turkey breasts and again I have basically niacin flush from them lol.. 200g of chicken breast is like 20mg of niacnin.. I eat always meat first and after that starches. I eat it and within 10-20 minutes I have the same warm and tingling sensation on ma face and neck. No redness. What is interesting that during my bodybuilding days I would eat so much chicken breast, but I didn't have that feeling. Now I am eating 2x200g and every time I eat breasts I will get that.. What is interesting that thighs will not do that. I think they are digested much slower due to high fat and also all kinds of tendons, ligaments in it.. But chicken breast is digested so fast that it gives that little flush like supplement. It is crazy.. 😀
That is pretty cool, natural flush 🙂 who needs a synthetic one? 😉
Quote from Jiří on February 3, 2024, 12:04 am@alexm I know and how they rise Na and K levels? Just eating more potassium and sodium? I think potassium makes me constipated and dry because it is antagonistic to sodium. When I tried stupid citrus, grape fast for 3 days with no sodium I was so dehydrated it was amazing that I survived lol.. Copper increases sodium right? Zinc lowers it? You have wide range of foods in the diet. I feel like I should eat low vit A, low copper, low saturated fat and cholesterol, low oxalate, low PUFA. Basically chicken breast with white rice and maybe oats with whey protein, some banana, cucumber, olive oil heh..
@jiriri No they are giving the supplement Para Pack which was designed to raise the oxidation rate, it also contains vitamin A. But you don't just take it on it's own you take what else they suggest for you with it, and for me that is Minplex B (magnesium, b6, chromium, low dose manganese), adrenal complex, Vitamin E plus (Vit E and selenium), Potassium Plus (low dose potassium used a signaller to the body to start using potassium again), HCL plus. Then they are also suggesting to go low calcium in the diet and avoid calcium foods as this blocks potassium.
Yeah the thing about my diet is I'm lucky to be able to buy all organic food, which makes a big difference in my opinion. I think if you just have one food in your diet that contains glyphosate unknowingly, then you're always gonna have issues metabolising Vit A. And going organic doesn't always fix this problem either, for example all the organic oats made in UK seem to be toxic and I don't feel good from them, likewise with organic oats in Croatia, I'm using one brand here called Amisa which is using oats from Netherlands and I feel good from them but I suspect the other ones all had glyphosate or some other toxin. And I have also seen some organic breads from supermarkets in UK tested positive for glyphosate.