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New protocol to fix iron/copper toxicity
Hi Jiri, it's kind of a bummer that you are still having issues, and we all have our health onion to peel. I do think TIME does a lot too. Fixing things takes a long time.
@lil-chick the thing is with stuff like iron time will not help. It will just do more damage and will accumulate more if you don't do anything about it.. For males who don't bleed naturally..
I hear ya, my grandfather gave blood all the time (I think he considered it patriotic, helping his fellow man) and he lived to his mid-nineties. He outlived 3 wives.
I wonder if menopausal women like me should also think about it.
Quote from lil chick on June 6, 2025, 4:37 amI hear ya, my grandfather gave blood all the time (I think he considered it patriotic, helping his fellow man) and he lived to his mid-nineties. He outlived 3 wives.
I wonder if menopausal women like me should also think about it.
100%. Watching ferritin and keeping it under 100. Keeping iron from accumulating and causing oxidative damage to all tissues is one of the most important factors and if something like vegetarian diet works it is exactly because of that. They avoid heme iron and still eat dairy and eggs which even inhibits absorption of iron from plant sources.. I really don't understand why even in biohacking community not many people talk about keeping iron in check.. You see all those heavy red meat eaters everywhere who think it is the best diet ever and you never hear them talking about "oh and just make sure your iron don't spike too much. Just donate blood couple times a year and you will be fine.." or something like that..
@whatisaging have you red this? https://acu-cell.com/crcu.html
Interesting that not many people put together copper and chromium..
@whatisaging even ARL recommended to me supplements after hair test that had like 800mcg of chromium.. So I just started taking it but only 200mcg. Also started with MSM but only 2g daily. Will see if it does something..
@whatisaging what you think about vit A is essential for ceruloplasmin? I trust nutritional balancing, but they don't address vit A issue at all. I wonder if I should start eating some after like 7 years of low vit A.. You did vi A blood test? The problem is that it can be low, but liver can be full. Same issue as with copper..
edit- I just looked in this thread https://ggenereux.blog/discussion/topic/grant-genereux-5/?part=1
I think they are right. It is basically like HG7 fixing iron to fix copper and maybe that will fix vit A metabolism as well much faster..
But it is crazy to watch you guys taking so much stuff like one guy was taking 1g(1000mg) of biotin that's insane haha
what was even more hilarious how hat one guy did blood test and his B6 was sky high still after retesting and I think @alexm said to him bro just take "HG6" I almost died laughing. 😀
I can't rule that out, since I remember a paper that copper toxic rats with low survival ended up all surviving when also megadosed with vitamin A. One idea is that vitamin A and copper compete for space in the liver, so reducing copper in that way helped. But it's also possible that the ceruloplasmin idea makes sense. The nutritional balancing guys use dairy, I believe. They say it's for calcium, but there could be multiple things at work.
On HG7, my high vitamin A symptoms have all improved, and I can eat foods like dairy and marinara sauce with no reactions now. I'm still trying to reduce vitamin A, based on aging things like lipofuscin accumulation and my continuing symptoms, but I'm just saying that I do think metals are connected somehow. Or that the protocol itself has enough diversity of biochemistry to account for all these toxicities at once.
1g of biotin is nothing. I take 5g routinely now haha. Yeah it's pretty nuts. I was scared to try it on the first day, but now it feels second nature, that having the ratios balanced means I'll feel OK, on that day at least.
Yeah the name "Holy Grail" might be too strong for something that requires so much calibration. Not quite the magic pill that everyone can just pop with the same effects. We'll see.
@whatisaging heh 5g of biotin which is basically 500 times more than the highest biotin pills(10mg) that really is hilarious. It sucks that we really don't know what is going on in the body with doses like this. But I am really interested to see what the long term result will be for most of you like 2-5 years into a protocol.. For me I can't imagine doing that. I would have one bad dose and I would be done with it.. I don't think I will take anything in high doses again. That is what created most of my issues in the first place.. So if it takes me 10 instead of 2 years to chelate excess of iron, copper and restore zinc status with low and slow approach I am ok with that..